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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:16 PM   #1
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John (Starstrukk) and I have a suggestion regarding the chat.

I read in the "Smart conversations" thread that some people wanted Chat moderators. Well, lets make this the thread that decides it. I know it will be the upper staff decision in the end, but lets see if the majority would like moderators.

John and I were in chat, and people start talking about the size of their penis, and how they jack off with friends. Sure, we could just leave, but I think Jeff did not donate the money for Chat to be used like this. I am not saying the moderators need to be forum moderators, and I am not saying they need the mod face or anything, they are just there to moderate the chat.

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:19 PM   #2
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Well I don't see how it couldn't be a bad idea. I hardly ever go onto the chat room, but when I do go, people seem to behave themselves usually, but I don't see a problem just having chat room moderators, then again, I wouldn't be the one to make the final decision on that, but I see the point that you are trying to make.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:22 PM   #3
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It seems like most of the time there's staff on there and therefore not too much misbehavior. I guess it comes down to how much of the time there's nobody there when bad stuff is going on, which from where I'm sitting seems to account for not much of the time - therefore, specific chat moderators would seem unnnecessary.

*edit* Of course, since by definition I'm mostly not around to see chat when I'm not available to be in it my perspective could be skewed.

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:23 PM   #4
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Whenever I'm in chat their is always a "hey you got cam" "can I ask your dick size" ect. I think that yes, moderation could be used and I think it should be on a basis that you're in chat a lot and know what you're doing. Members/Moderators could put themselves forward. It's a good idea yes, but again not my final choice.


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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:58 PM   #5
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From what I can see, there does seem to be almost always at least one staff member in the chat during increased times of activity. However - moderation in chat is more relaxed than in the forum.

I think there is definitely a need for more clear-cut rules and moderation procedures for the chat. Discussing penis size and other questions that are commonly acceptable in P101, is an annoyance of course - but isn't technically breaking any rules.

I'll be honest and say that oftentimes I won't know what to do when a troll enters the chat and starts interrupting a good conversation - if they are simply being annoying and not actually saying anything that could warrant a ban.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 09:29 PM   #6
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I am always in chat, and almost always, whenever there is not a moderator, someone comes in asking about camming, sexuality, if it is a dirty chat, etc. Usually moderators aren't in there in the morning, and when I am someone always comes in when I'm having a discussion asking if someone wants to cam, or if anyone wants to dirty chat. Therefore I have to end my discussion and leave because I am not dealing with this person.

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 09:48 PM   #7
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Adam's basically said everything I think. and if this does come to pass I'm in chat most of the day.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:06 PM   #8
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I think this has been considered before but just more normal mods were added.

Honestly, personally, I think that they are unnecessary. People just need to be vigilantes.

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:09 PM   #9
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Oh, I think it would be an excellent idea. A lot of people, including me, have been bashed in there because of the lack of a moderator presence. People say whatever they want in there, including hurtful things.



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Old March 23rd, 2010, 11:09 PM   #10
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All the stuff happenes when mods arent there. I think there should be mod for chat.....

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Old March 24th, 2010, 12:46 AM   #11
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All the stuff happenes when mods arent there. I think there should be mod for chat.....
Yes except that there's a point at which adding more mods doesn't necessarily help that. 100% moderator presence is never going to happen, even if you were to add 3 or 4 chat moderators. And it would create additional complications.

Anyways, I agree with John. If someone does something against the rules that you witness while no mod is around to deal with it, report it.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #12
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Anyways, I agree with John. If someone does something against the rules that you witness while no mod is around to deal with it, report it.
That's not what we're on about. We mean at the moment when it happens you can't do anything. Sure we can report it but that does nada when someone is fucking up a conversation with cam questions.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 01:21 AM   #13
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I'm really in favor of it.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 01:23 AM   #14
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If it counts for anything. I wouldn't mind being Chat Mod.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #15
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I think this has been considered before but just more normal mods were added.

Honestly, personally, I think that they are unnecessary. People just need to be vigilantes.

Report inappropriate behavior by taking a screen shot or telling an admin the exact time and user and it will be handled effectively.
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Yes except that there's a point at which adding more mods doesn't necessarily help that. 100% moderator presence is never going to happen, even if you were to add 3 or 4 chat moderators. And it would create additional complications.

Anyways, I agree with John. If someone does something against the rules that you witness while no mod is around to deal with it, report it.
I'm going to agree with John and David here.

If someone comes along and starts to be annoying - report and ignore them - to an extent, it's the same concept as with posts in the forums. There won't always be a staff member guaranteed online, especially during times of decreased activity, but reports are dealt with as soon as it becomes possible.

It's a well-intending suggestion - but I, too, question its necessity and the complications it may bring - ignore feature is there for a reason.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 01:35 AM   #16
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just so you all know, the senior staff are already in discussion about this idea and hopefully in the coming days will come to a conclusion with it.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 02:12 AM   #17
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It seems almost 50/50 for me really. Arguments can be made against it, arguments can be made for it. However, one really obvious point that comes forward is moderator workload: a chat moderator position is one which reduces strain on the normal moderators. As a former mod I know that after a while everything really kind of starts to pile up so just sitting around in the chat making sure things are going well can easily be something that adds stress or simply doesn't get done.

The other thing is just that it's a position which someone like me might consider. At this point I'd never be comfortable even sending in an application for a full-on moderator job due to time constraints (which you all know about ) but a more minor position is something that someone who wants to contribute in a smaller way could help with. Spreading the load around. Many hands make light work, all that good stuff.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 08:28 AM   #18
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*shrug* I'm in chat for at least a number of hours every day. Reporting certain things is pointless because by the time a moderator can come around to deal with them, the issue or person in question is long gone. I don't see chat mods as being as... authoritative? on the forum as the regular staff, but having people around to serve quick chatroom law and order where needed would certainly be nice, and would hopefully make the chatroom a more pleasant place for most people.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 02:47 PM   #19
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Me and Jeff are virtually always in chat. As is a few others. We just need to give the senior staff time to think about it.

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Old March 24th, 2010, 02:51 PM   #20
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Personally, I see no problem against it. I mean, someone could take the appropriate action of taking a screen shot and sending it to a mod, or, most of us are connected to a mod some way off of VT, so someone could just jump on MSN and call in a mod. I don't think its unnecessary, but not completely essential.

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