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Old December 2nd, 2017, 03:25 AM   #1
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in my media class this question came up because we are studying persuasion techniques, convincing people to believe something is true, when it is really false or vice-versa, or whatever!

https://www.tfes.org/

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i also learned about poe's law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 05:47 AM   #2
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Earth being flat makes no sense tbh. If it were true, I could see the Andes and Mount Everest from the top of my apartment building.

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 12:21 PM   #3
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The horizon exists purely because of the Earth's spherical shape. That's evidence enough, really. Otherwise, the fact that we've actually been to space and saw the Earth's shape (Crew on the ISS see it daily) is basically a "There is nothing you can do to prove that Earth is flat" sort of thing going on.

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The Earth is an oblate spheroid.

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 07:11 PM   #5
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They are people debating climate change, debating the Earth is flat is not that different.

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 11:43 PM   #6
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They are people debating climate change, debating the Earth is flat is not that different.
Im only 13 so i may not be the wisest of people out there, but i believe the what the scientists say about the earth being round, and that climate change is real

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It has to be round
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 12:11 PM   #8
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earth is flat in the sense that i can communicate to anyone in the world without leaving my room
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 12:11 PM   #9
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It's a proven tact that if you spend enough time and money you with the power of the media you can convince people (sheepeople) just about anything.... doesn't matter if its true or not.
Oh btw the world is round.

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I would be horrified if someone answered this question flat


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It's a proven tact that if you spend enough time and money you with the power of the media you can convince people (sheepeople) just about anything.... doesn't matter if its true or not.
Oh btw the world is round.
yeah, that true. we talked about that in class at school. what is kinda also true, is people don't need to be rich anymore because of the internet. now a single crazy person can do all kinds of crazy things on the internet that before only crazy rich people or companies could do.

in class we can talk about things we have seen on the internet, but we can't talk about how to do things like that. some guys at school have done some pretty crazy things because they know how, but they can't say how they did it, at least not in class.
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Its very round we have known this for thousands of years. I don't know how people could think it's flat.
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Old December 6th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #13
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Well the earth is round but still people in 21st century believe tha t the earth is flat xD
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The flat earth society is a hilarous website you should go check out lol

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i know there are some obscure online communities of people that do but besides them who really thinks the earth is flat tho? it's a meme, not a debate.
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Neither the earth is cubed)

(the last time I mad this joke to people, I had to let them know I was joking and agreed the earth was round, because it is).

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in my media class this question came up because we are studying persuasion techniques, convincing people to believe something is true, when it is really false or vice-versa, or whatever!

https://www.tfes.org/

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I really disagree with a class that is teaching others how to deceive others.

But the answer of how people persuade other people, is a dangerously powerful art.

It all comes down to a mix of psychology, biology, and epistemology (the philosophical study of how we attain knowledge).

My view on it, is that people have poor communication skills, everything is a game of telephone and the way language is spoken and written is not transparent enough to convey a true message. This is why people can misunderstand each other and chaos can begin from that point of misunderstanding.

Reading body language is another, and comparing that with what is verbally uttered...can be contradictory right? Some will sense this others won't.


But a fact of life is that most people hate thinking, they go for easy answers and for the few that know this, they'll hide the true message in a mental space that requires more effort to get too.

Conspiracy theorists sound smart, and they might be, but in actuality they abandon a system of rigorous thinking, to believe the unbelievable without a logical explanation and often lack the means to explain their justification for why they did use different mental criteria in say their professional job, but when it comes to believing a conspiracy theory they aren't as rigorous in vetting the facts.

People who fashion conspiracy theories or marketing know the point in which to hook an audience in within the context of telling a fancy story and balance the smart-sounding-talk, while also hiding the facts from view.


Do people want to be lied too and kept emotionally happy and feel good? Or do they want to be told the truth even if it means sending them down an emotionally sad and hard path.

Most people take the former option, and that's how humanity has en mass used persuasion in a predatory way.
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Old December 13th, 2017, 02:44 AM   #20
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i go crazy at the trolls at school sayin the earth is flat..its round we know it.
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