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Old September 5th, 2017, 06:31 AM   #21
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I'd say girls/women have it harder.
Parents, especially fathers' have a certain opinion about their daughters and sex. For most, it is that the two don't mix. "Not on my watch." Pressure from paternal (if present) parent and maybe maternal parent as well to keep virginity, or be "pure." All that "my sweet pure virgin daughter" bullshit. Sexual freedom is way different for most. Then clothes. One of my friends' mom's constantly is judging her clothing. Thinks she looks like a "slut" or a prostitute when she goes out wearing shorter skirts, shorts or other stuff. She changes at school often and it takes a bit of a toll on her. Body image I think is an issue indeed for both genders, but it is harder for females due to the more prevalent media pressure, both clear and subliminal. Obviously periods as well. The concerns of getting pregnant. Getting home safe after dark. Catcalling. My friends get catcalled all the time, and it is disgusting. Being alone on a bus or train. General safety. And actually, I'd add, puberty itself. Hormonal changes add onto physical changes which require a bit more attention. I mean, to some extent, one might say that socially, girls have the upper hand. But that's about it, no? Also, lots of people feel pressured to be give up dreams that they have to raise a family, which from such a young age can be detrimental to their futures. I've been self conscious about my body and still am, I also used to and still do think my dick is small sometimes. But I'd assume it's nothing compared to what girls and young women face. I mean I guess guys also have the "boys don't cry" standard to live up to. But yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way, and have utmost respect for women, young and old and girls because they go through a whole other world of pain that I'll never understand.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 06:44 AM   #22
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Girls' hygiene issues: They have to regularly shave their pits and their legs, too. And I have a question (since I have zero "real life" experience on this one). Okay, I watch some internet porn sometimes. Seems like all girls, even in homemade vids, are shaving off all their pubic hair too. In real life, girls who are sexually active, is this pretty much an expectation of girls now, too?
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Girls' hygiene issues: They have to regularly shave their pits and their legs, too. And I have a question (since I have zero "real life" experience on this one). Okay, I watch some internet porn sometimes. Seems like all girls, even in homemade vids, are shaving off all their pubic hair too. In real life, girls who are sexually active, is this pretty much an expectation of girls now, too?
I've never heard that but yeah i know that happens but that could be said the same with guys

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Kind of happy that guys understand all the things that girls have to go through. It can be a real beech sometimes...
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Old September 6th, 2017, 09:43 AM   #25
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Kind of happy that guys understand all the things that girls have to go through. It can be a real beech sometimes...
do you know what boys go through just wondering

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do you know what boys go through just wondering
As a matter of fact I do. I happen to have a brother. All he has to do is roll out of bed in the morning, brush his teeth, comb his hair, throw on a tee, put on some jeans and he's out the door.

Not to mention that his personal hygiene routine is far less complicated than mine.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 01:30 AM   #27
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mhm thats a first

But socially i think boys have it harder due to double standards but they have some against woman but im pretty sure its worse for boys

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Old September 23rd, 2017, 05:57 PM   #28
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If you're talking about puberty and just growing up, I would say girls have it harder for at least two reasons. First, girls have to deal with periods and menstruation. Second, when it comes to dating, I think girls tend to experience more rules and scrutiny than boys.
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Old September 23rd, 2017, 07:07 PM   #29
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I had to actually fight to get into AP Chemistry this year because "I won't need it, as girls don't really do the sciences."

That is not something boys have to do.
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Guys have their own particular issues (dick size, how athletic u are, etc) but I think all the shit girls face outweighs guy probs BIG TIME. And lemme stress the fact that it is SHIT
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Well don't boys literally have it harder? lol

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Well, imo, a true, unbiased comparison of who has it harder from a physical standpoint based on firsthand experience isn't easily possible (there aren't too many people who have experienced life in both male and female bodies). Because of this, I just don't see the point of discussing it from this standpoint.

However, from a societal perspective (in the western world, mainly speaking about the US here), males DEFINITELY have it easier. I don't think anyone can dispute that most of the western world is a patriarchal society where, for example, women still only earn about 2/3 of what men do for doing the same job with the same qualifications.

Also, child birth is effing painful.
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Well, imo, a true, unbiased comparison of who has it harder from a physical standpoint based on firsthand experience isn't easily possible (there aren't too many people who have experienced life in both male and female bodies). Because of this, I just don't see the point of discussing it from this standpoint.

However, from a societal perspective (in the western world, mainly speaking about the US here), males DEFINITELY have it easier. I don't think anyone can dispute that most of the western world is a patriarchal society where, for example, women still only earn about 2/3 of what men do for doing the same job with the same qualifications.

Also, child birth is effing painful.
The wage gap is a myth
Unsheltered Homeless (2009)
Women – 12,000 – 4%
Men – 240,000 – 96%

Life Expectancy (2006)
Women – 80.8 Years
Men – 75.7 Years

Suicides (2008)
Women – 7,585 - 19%
Men – 28,450 - 81%

Deaths by Homicide (2004)
Women – 3,856 – 20%
Men – 14,717 – 80%

Deaths from Cancer (2004)
Women – 269,819
Men – 290,069

Deaths from HIV/AIDS (2004)
Women – 3,357
Men – 8,756

Federal Funds for Sex Specific Cancer Research
Women – Breast Cancer – $631,000,000 - 40,000 Deaths
Men – Prostate Cancer – $300,000,000 - 33,000 Deaths

Deaths on the Job (2010)
Women – 355 - 7%
Men – 4,192 - 93%

Injuries on the Job (2007)
Women – 36%
Men – 64%

College Enrollment (2009)
Women – 58% - 11,658,000
Men – 42% - 8,770,000

Affirmative Action Education Programs (Gender Specific)
Women – Yes
Men – No

Unemployment Rates (2010)
Women – 8.6% – 6,199,000
Men – 10.5% - 8,626,000

Average Hours Worked Per Week (2010)
Women – 36.1
Men – 40.2

High School Graduation Rates (2005)
Women – 72%
Men – 65%

Incarceration Rates (2009)
Women – 114,979 - 7%
Men – 1,502,49 - 93%

Child Custody Rates
Women – 11,268,000 custodial mothers
Men – 2,907,000 custodial fathers

US Military Deaths From 1950 – 2010
Women – 139 - 0.001%
Men – 100,063 - 99.99%


Federally Funded Battered Shelters
Women – 2,000+ $300,000,000 per year
Men – None – $0


Drug and Alcohol Addiction and Abuse Rates (2010)
Women – 5.8%
Men – 12.2%?

also i watched a couple vids of a social experiment where the woman abuses a man then no one cares but when he fights back he gets thrown to the ground www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw

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Since this is not about puberty...

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As far as puberty is concerned, women have it worse, definitely. You can't deny biology. From a societal perspective, women still have it slightly harder. They are most likely to be raped than men, for instance. I'd say, however, that things are starting to invert and in some decades, I'd say both will have it equally hard or at least women less harder than men. I'm talking about the western world, obviously. In the Middle East, for instance, women are still treated like cattle, and that's not going to change.


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Since this is not about puberty...

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As far as puberty is concerned, women have it worse, definitely. You can't deny biology. From a societal perspective, women still have it slightly harder. They are most likely to be raped than men, for instance. I'd say, however, that things are starting to invert and in some decades, I'd say both will have it equally hard or at least women less harder than men. I'm talking about the western world, obviously. In the Middle East, for instance, women are still treated like cattle, and that's not going to change.
Oh yeah far far far worst in the middle east but i think men have it harder in society because if you watch the video i put in it shows how society is now days

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Oh yeah far far far worst in the middle east but i think men have it harder in society because if you watch the video i put in it shows how society is now days
I've watched that video before, and the thing is, if it wasn't a prank, both of those men could easily subdue that woman if they were assaulted. The only thing that video proves is that physical violence against women is frowned upon by society, whereas physical violence against men carried out by women is laughed at. This is not new. However, this happens because, generally speaking, women are physically inferior than men because of their biological development during puberty. Men tend to develop muscle, while women tend to develop fat. Hence, society sees women as more fragile and that's why violence against them is seen as something bad. It's not women's fault, it's just the way society interpretates a physical distinction between men and women and transposes it into a social norm.

Also, OCKTV are renowned for their staged pranks. Not that I wouldn't believe the video isn't legit. It's just something worth of mentioning.


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Pysicaly girls has it worse there a not much to argue that. Social is where my opinion becomes a unpopular one. Woman in the year 2017 not 1800 or 1920 have it well. Intodays age woman have more power and opportunities. Woman have more scholarships and bigger company's are looking for woman to seem more modern. Men on the other hand don't have any male only shcholirships and company's are trying avoid men just because they don't won't to seem "patriarchal". America and most western cultures are not rape cultures and never will be. The middle East is a different story and to compare western cultures to the middle and it a horrible to say there close.
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The wage gap is a myth
Unsheltered Homeless (2009)
Women – 12,000 – 4%
Men – 240,000 – 96%

Life Expectancy (2006)
Women – 80.8 Years
Men – 75.7 Years

Suicides (2008)
Women – 7,585 - 19%
Men – 28,450 - 81%

Deaths by Homicide (2004)
Women – 3,856 – 20%
Men – 14,717 – 80%

Deaths from Cancer (2004)
Women – 269,819
Men – 290,069

Deaths from HIV/AIDS (2004)
Women – 3,357
Men – 8,756

Federal Funds for Sex Specific Cancer Research
Women – Breast Cancer – $631,000,000 - 40,000 Deaths
Men – Prostate Cancer – $300,000,000 - 33,000 Deaths

Deaths on the Job (2010)
Women – 355 - 7%
Men – 4,192 - 93%

Injuries on the Job (2007)
Women – 36%
Men – 64%

College Enrollment (2009)
Women – 58% - 11,658,000
Men – 42% - 8,770,000

Affirmative Action Education Programs (Gender Specific)
Women – Yes
Men – No

Unemployment Rates (2010)
Women – 8.6% – 6,199,000
Men – 10.5% - 8,626,000

Average Hours Worked Per Week (2010)
Women – 36.1
Men – 40.2

High School Graduation Rates (2005)
Women – 72%
Men – 65%

Incarceration Rates (2009)
Women – 114,979 - 7%
Men – 1,502,49 - 93%

Child Custody Rates
Women – 11,268,000 custodial mothers
Men – 2,907,000 custodial fathers

US Military Deaths From 1950 – 2010
Women – 139 - 0.001%
Men – 100,063 - 99.99%


Federally Funded Battered Shelters
Women – 2,000+ $300,000,000 per year
Men – None – $0


Drug and Alcohol Addiction and Abuse Rates (2010)
Women – 5.8%
Men – 12.2%?

also i watched a couple vids of a social experiment where the woman abuses a man then no one cares but when he fights back he gets thrown to the ground www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw
Most, if not all of those are because of toxic masculinity resulting from our patriarchal society, which does impact women a lot more than men.

Hell, in a lot of states, women don't even have complete bodily autonomy

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The wage gap is a myth
Unsheltered Homeless (2009)
Women – 12,000 – 4%
Men – 240,000 – 96%

Life Expectancy (2006)
Women – 80.8 Years
Men – 75.7 Years

Suicides (2008)
Women – 7,585 - 19%
Men – 28,450 - 81%

Deaths by Homicide (2004)
Women – 3,856 – 20%
Men – 14,717 – 80%

Deaths from Cancer (2004)
Women – 269,819
Men – 290,069

Deaths from HIV/AIDS (2004)
Women – 3,357
Men – 8,756

Federal Funds for Sex Specific Cancer Research
Women – Breast Cancer – $631,000,000 - 40,000 Deaths
Men – Prostate Cancer – $300,000,000 - 33,000 Deaths

Deaths on the Job (2010)
Women – 355 - 7%
Men – 4,192 - 93%

Injuries on the Job (2007)
Women – 36%
Men – 64%

College Enrollment (2009)
Women – 58% - 11,658,000
Men – 42% - 8,770,000

Affirmative Action Education Programs (Gender Specific)
Women – Yes
Men – No

Unemployment Rates (2010)
Women – 8.6% – 6,199,000
Men – 10.5% - 8,626,000

Average Hours Worked Per Week (2010)
Women – 36.1
Men – 40.2

High School Graduation Rates (2005)
Women – 72%
Men – 65%

Incarceration Rates (2009)
Women – 114,979 - 7%
Men – 1,502,49 - 93%

Child Custody Rates
Women – 11,268,000 custodial mothers
Men – 2,907,000 custodial fathers

US Military Deaths From 1950 – 2010
Women – 139 - 0.001%
Men – 100,063 - 99.99%


Federally Funded Battered Shelters
Women – 2,000+ $300,000,000 per year
Men – None – $0


Drug and Alcohol Addiction and Abuse Rates (2010)
Women – 5.8%
Men – 12.2%?

also i watched a couple vids of a social experiment where the woman abuses a man then no one cares but when he fights back he gets thrown to the ground www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw
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I've watched that video before, and the thing is, if it wasn't a prank, both of those men could easily subdue that woman if they were assaulted. The only thing that video proves is that physical violence against women is frowned upon by society, whereas physical violence against men carried out by women is laughed at. This is not new. However, this happens because, generally speaking, women are physically inferior than men because of their biological development during puberty. Men tend to develop muscle, while women tend to develop fat. Hence, society sees women as more fragile and that's why violence against them is seen as something bad. It's not women's fault, it's just the way society interpretates a physical distinction between men and women and transposes it into a social norm.

Also, OCKTV are renowned for their staged pranks. Not that I wouldn't believe the video isn't legit. It's just something worth of mentioning.
Yeah but you're forgetting the fact that -

1 in 3 women [and 1 in 4 men] have been victims of [some form of] physical violence by an intimate partner within their lifetime.

1 in 4 women [and 1 in 7 men] have been victims of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime

1 in 7 women [and 1 in 18 men] have been stalked by an intimate partner during their lifetime

Women between the ages of 18-24 are most commonly abused by an intimate partner.

1 in 5 women [and 1 in 71 men] in the United States has been raped in their lifetime

Women abused by their intimate partners are more vulnerable to contracting HIV or other STI’s due to forced intercourse or prolonged exposure to stress.

Source

82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female

Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.

Women ages 18-24 who are college students are 3 times more likely than women in general to experience sexual violence. Females of the same age who are not enrolled in college are 4 times more likely

Source

So no fucking shit people are going to be more scared of men than they are women. Even growing up, society places gender roles and stereotypes on men and women. Men as aggressive and dominant. Women as kind and submissive. Because of these stereotypes not only do we learn to fear men, but it also puts pressure on the man to be that way. I'm not saying that men aren't abused or raped, but a large majority of the time they are not the victims. 9/10 people that are raped are FEMALE. Now tell me again why men have it so difficult? Tell me again why more people are afraid of men than women?

Also, can I get sources for those statistics @Scarydrago

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There are people that have civilized conversations easily while others can't seem to control themselves. This is by no means limited as a gender or sex issue. If I had to guess I would say that its more difficult for guys based entirely by what i have witnessed.


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