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View Poll Results: Communism
Kill them all 1 8.33%
definatly aginst it 2 16.67%
I really don't care 0 0%
Do what you want, just not in America 1 8.33%
Good Idea bad plan of attack 8 66.67%
I am a Communist 0 0%
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Old June 14th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #21
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its a horrible idea what are you guys talking about. if it was a good idea, it would work. does it? no. therefore, it sucks
the idea is good.... but no one knows how to run it...

Do u know what Communism is?
thats the biggest load of crap ever. listen, IF IT DOESNT WORK THE IDEA SUCKs. you can't just blame it on the people who "don't know how to implement their OWN ideas" correctly
What is communism? Tell me what the idea is.... read it over and over... then u can debate with me....


COMMUNISM: As a social and economic system, communism would be a type of egalitarian society with no state, no privately owned means of production, no money and no social classes. All property is owned cooperatively and collectively, by the community as a whole, and all people have equal social and economic status and rights. Human need or advancement is not left unsatisfied because of poverty, and is rather solved through distribution of resources as needed. This is thus often the system proposed to solve the problem of the capitalist poverty cycle.

Its saposed to end poverty, get rid of money, get rid of social classes, equil propert... basicly where EVERYONE is equil! How is it a bad idea... to make it so everyones equil, same money and land and NO body is higher than another.... its not a bad idea... just its not run correctly....

THATS WHAT COMMUNISM IS!
its a horrible shit idea because being equal is both impossible and bad. instead of having some rich people, some middle class peole, and some poor people, EVERYONE IS FUCKING POOR. how would you like everything you own reposessed so that you could live in poverty like the rest of the world? its a failing idea and its killed millions of people. and marx wanted to end up with no government and thats a horrible idea as well
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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:21 PM   #22
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i sure as hell wouldnt want to work for someone else. I would want to work for me, and have the tight to own MY own property.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 04:43 PM   #23
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its a horrible idea what are you guys talking about. if it was a good idea, it would work. does it? no. therefore, it sucks
the idea is good.... but no one knows how to run it...

Do u know what Communism is?
thats the biggest load of crap ever. listen, IF IT DOESNT WORK THE IDEA SUCKs. you can't just blame it on the people who "don't know how to implement their OWN ideas" correctly
What is communism? Tell me what the idea is.... read it over and over... then u can debate with me....


COMMUNISM: As a social and economic system, communism would be a type of egalitarian society with no state, no privately owned means of production, no money and no social classes. All property is owned cooperatively and collectively, by the community as a whole, and all people have equal social and economic status and rights. Human need or advancement is not left unsatisfied because of poverty, and is rather solved through distribution of resources as needed. This is thus often the system proposed to solve the problem of the capitalist poverty cycle.

Its saposed to end poverty, get rid of money, get rid of social classes, equil propert... basicly where EVERYONE is equil! How is it a bad idea... to make it so everyones equil, same money and land and NO body is higher than another.... its not a bad idea... just its not run correctly....

THATS WHAT COMMUNISM IS!
its a horrible shit idea because being equal is both impossible and bad. instead of having some rich people, some middle class peole, and some poor people, EVERYONE IS FUCKING POOR. how would you like everything you own reposessed so that you could live in poverty like the rest of the world? its a failing idea and its killed millions of people. and marx wanted to end up with no government and thats a horrible idea as well
ok yet again.... i agree with you that it wasnt set up correctly... and that it was run incorectly.... Every bit of ur argument is that it is run incorrecly... which is what i was saying in the first place.... ok look... number 1.... Dont release anger on me.... release ur beliefs, not anger.... number 2 heres what i believe... because u dont seem to understand me...

The idea of communism... the IDEA, not the actualy way its run is as good idea. Where everyone is in middle class and everyone is equil and no jelousy factor. It has its weird parts but so does democracy.... Bush lies to use constantly.... so does the communist governement to its people.... The patriot act is such an invasion of privacy, in communism... whats urs is mine and whats mine is urs so there is no privacy... all im saying is the IDEA of communism is not bad.... but the way its put into effect in China and Soviet Russa in the 80's and 90's... the way communism is run there is TERRIBLE! But thats not what im arguing...

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Old June 14th, 2005, 05:06 PM   #24
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its a fictitious idea dont you understand? thast like saying im going to invent a political party called "EveryoneisRichandHappy". in this form and governemnt adam, everyones a millionaire and everyone has all the freedoms they want and noone holds a grudge against anyone and the world is a pieceful place with no wars


see what that is called is fiction, and it has the same probability of happeneing in the real world as communism does. communism is a fake impossible idea and theres no such thing as a successful communist governement.

and by the way, id like you to embellish on how your freedoms and liberties have been violated over the past 4 years from the patriot act. please, id like to see some specific exacmples of how your rights were violated. enlighten me
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Old June 14th, 2005, 06:28 PM   #25
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just knowing that the books i check out from the library can be monitered by the governemt is SCARY enough!

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Old June 14th, 2005, 06:51 PM   #26
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oh GOD FOR FUCKING SHIT, they can check your library lists? no way dude. you know who can also check your library lists? the librarians!!! omg your probably shitting in your pants now!!!
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:05 PM   #27
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It's a great idea. It would be the unltimate answer to equality for everyone. But the people who have run it have decided to give in to the public interest while most times at war and they've not distributed equality. Say bob and rob both work at the same place. Bob works his ass off but rob just sits there and does nothing. In theory, bob would be equal to rob in earnings and in respect so bob goes on a rampage and communism doesn't work. If a goverment focused just on making it work, it would be great. Everyone would be middle class and it would just make lives easier. But with common greed and crime, it would never succed in common day america, even if the government allowed it for a week.
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everyone being equal would be the worst thing imaginable and none of you would like it one bit. you know why? because everyone would be equally poor and drive equally shitty cars and eat all the same shit food and get all the same things for christmass and noone would be able to go on vacation because noone would have any money and everyone would just live equally shit lives. think that sounds appealing? great, go live in africa
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:14 PM   #29
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Yea, except you're not being creative. Sure you'd have the restraints of being middle class, but you'd be able to get the same presents that you get today, and the same vacations. You're looking at it the wrong day. It's not the value of all those things, it the work you do, and the goverment gives you it. It's very complicated. Life is equal, but production goes on.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:26 PM   #30
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cosmos, you said thjat communism is a fake impossible idea....But ummm.....isnt cuba a communist nation, and hasnt it been communist for a realy long time, and isnt north korea communist and Vietnam and China......so ummmmm its not fake or impossible, cuz these countries are communist nations.

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no, because when all the poor people are added into the average the standard of living goes down. there are more poor people than there are rich people, so when you liquidate everyones assests the poor aend up in majority. you wouldnt get the same presents you do now, you would get the same vacations, you wouldnt even be able to live in your house. your house, along with everything else you own, would be liquidated. and you would be poor as fuck
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Matt is getting 2 defensive... i think its best if i just stop or else this will turn into a fight

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defensive as in what? scared? please. im just telling you that communism is a shitty idea, and you wont believe me. the only way it will turn into a fight is if you let it
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Old June 14th, 2005, 08:47 PM   #34
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i hate communism. the only countries that have it are really fucked up. in communism everyone would be poor aposed to in our society where most people are middle class a few are upper class and very few are lower class.
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i was about ask u what country you live in where very few are lower class, and then i remembered you live in canada, so that explains it.

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well i understand that america has more poverty then canada but americas poverty is nowhere near the poverty of the communist countries.the idea i of communism is to make everyone middle class.( i think) but that doesent work.
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no it doesnt because when everyone averages out its poor. ok maybe in america everyone has so much money so it would average out around teh middle, but anywhere else youd end up with everyone poor. i hope i dont sound arrogant, but i know i do, so ya
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communism doesnt work, because no one would ever want to be equal. and we shouldnt be!! people that work harder and play harder should get more money. except, i think sport's players get payed to much! especially football and baseball! they dont earn their money! those are stupid, lazy sports! i think the harder the sport, the more you should get payed!
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communism doesnt work, because no one would ever want to be equal. and we shouldnt be!! people that work harder and play harder should get more money. except, i think sport's players get payed to much! especially football and baseball! they dont earn their money! those are stupid, lazy sports! i think the harder the sport, the more you should get payed!
(that was a little of subject!!)
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