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Old February 13th, 2006, 04:15 PM   #41
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but you don't deny that interacial marriage was looked down upon the church during the civil rights movments? Thats just how it is today, with gay marriage, its looked down upon by the church, but in 50 years, hopfully we will have forgotten our differences.


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Old February 13th, 2006, 11:50 PM   #42
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The church hasn't always preached things that are 100% based on the Bible. The Bible is my main guide, and I don't see it shunning interracial marriage. It does, however, shun Gay relationship and marriage.

Church doctorine based off of this is clear, and if a Church wants to ban gay marriage, why not?

A government still can give the right to a civil union. It's a simple matter! Churches=Marriage, Government=Civil Union. Civil Union rights=Marriage rights (or should in my opinion).

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Old February 14th, 2006, 02:36 AM   #43
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i agree with you!
but I think we should take a step further, and go for equal rights, afterall, we should all be equal.


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Old February 14th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #44
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We are in 90% agreement. I want equal rights, but just keep mariage a religious thing. Could you immagine the government passing laws about communion? It just doesn't make sense.

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Old February 14th, 2006, 04:49 PM   #45
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I can understand that, I can, but I don't know, it just seems like its emposing restrints on freedom no matter which way it goes. its imposing the churches right to religion and the homoseuxals right to marriage. how about this, a law should coinside with the right of gay marriage, that states the church has the right to refuse. Becauase some churches I'm sure would do it, most would not. I've come to a consensus on this one, It is not right to force churches to marry them, and its not right for gays to not allowed to be married. So a church should not be fored to marry a gay cuple, but the gay couple should have the right to get married.....something like that.


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Old February 15th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #46
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Dfsg, your communion argument is flawed. It would be similar if the Church was denying all Asians the right to communion or something. Or all short people.
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i dont mind if they get married...














But if they come within 50 feet of me i'll shoot 'em
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Old February 15th, 2006, 03:53 PM   #48
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But if they come within 50 feet of me i'll shoot 'em
really? i see that as gay bashing. something prhibited on this site, esspecialy since you wrote it small. i see that as being spineless as well.

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Old February 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM   #49
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i was only joking. my homour isn't limited to friendly giggles though.

i seriously have no problem with gay people - it's not personal at all.
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joking? i am not laughing. and the fact you wrote it small says to me that you meant it.

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Old February 15th, 2006, 04:08 PM   #51
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joking? i am not laughing. and the fact you wrote it small says to me that you meant it.
other forums have other atomspheres.

i'm new to this one, and i apologise - it won't happen again...

again, i didn't mean it.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #53
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yeah, that was very offensive to the marority of members on this site. See too it that it never happnes again in the debate form or any other form on this site, gay bashing is grounds for bannment.


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Ah, the lexicon of a bulletin board, bannment My vocabulary has added a few things since joining up with GOV in 99.

As for Gay marriage, I just don't want to see the rights of the church lost. If it's a rights issue, both groups have rights. The church should have the right to keep it's spiritual thing thier own, and the government should have it's right to bring people into union under equal protection as a married couple. Sure, some churches are marrying gays, and though I find that odd theologically, I guess it was their choice to go that way, and in that case alone should a gay marriage truely happen.

My denomiation still doesn't allow it. We defrocked our president recently for presiding over his daughter's lesbian wedding... It was a big hubub in our general synod meeting.

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Old February 24th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #55
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I agree with it becuase everyone no matter what or who should be able to marry whomever they want. It is a right that Americans should be able to have without discrimination
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Old February 25th, 2006, 01:05 AM   #56
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I agree with it becuase everyone no matter what or who should be able to marry whomever they want. It is a right that Americans should be able to have without discrimination
dsfg is right in this debate though, it is not right to impose on the church's religious pratice's. They are protected under the constitution of the United States. But its not right to impose on the Homosexual Communities either. There rights are protected under the american freedom of choice principle. They should be allowed Civil Unions and the right of marriage, only if the church agrees to follow threw the marriage ceremony. No church should be forced to marry gay cuples. But hopfully we can learn to get along and resolve our differences threw mature conversation instead of violence like in the civilrights movemnt of the 1960's


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Old February 25th, 2006, 11:06 AM   #57
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This is kind of hard for me to put into words..

I'm a Christian, and homosexuality of any kind clearly goes against it, and in my religion, marriage is supposed to be the joining of a man/woman. So if I where forced to vote, I'd choose no, because of morals. BUT, as far as if it where legalized, it wouldn't really bother me that much. Everyone has a choice - whether my beliefs coincide with it or not. So, I'd have to vote no. BUT, I'm not a homophobe, or trying to be rude in -ANY- way. To any homosexuals on this board - I respect you guys, your beliefs, and your choices - Please understand me in that.
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Old February 25th, 2006, 11:32 AM   #58
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This is kind of hard for me to put into words..

I'm a Christian, and homosexuality of any kind clearly goes against it, and in my religion, marriage is supposed to be the joining of a man/woman. So if I where forced to vote, I'd choose no, because of morals. BUT, as far as if it where legalized, it wouldn't really bother me that much. Everyone has a choice - whether my beliefs coincide with it or not. So, I'd have to vote no. BUT, I'm not a homophobe, or trying to be rude in -ANY- way. To any homosexuals on this board - I respect you guys, your beliefs, and your choices - Please understand me in that.
Of course Pro activists and Traditional activists can get along, as long as we respect each other. When are respect is lost, so shall the argument be lost.


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Old July 19th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #59
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To the people who believe in GOD and jesus and that stupid things of religion. Gays or bis cannot marrie. Man and Women were designed to reproduce not to turn biologically handicapped animal.
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Why are priests forced to marry people they don't agree with. My mom and dad got married at a justice of the peace....


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