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View Poll Results: What is your religion?
Agnosticism 138 13.40%
Atheism 311 30.19%
Buddhism 12 1.17%
Christianity (Please Specify) 409 39.71%
Hinduism 9 0.87%
Islam 33 3.20%
Judaism 17 1.65%
Wicca 17 1.65%
Other (Please Specify) 84 8.16%
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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:41 PM   #1861
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okay well just google it just to see if im right or wrong. im mean really if im wrong im wrong. its not like the world hangs in the balance over this one conversation. if im wrong i will admit it. you will have semi proof. but then again werent you the one that said that you cant beleive everything your told.
It's nice to see that you go from one set of opinions to a completely different set in just a few posts. That's definitely how to debate. Don't come into a debate and say "google it" to someone who is arguing against your point. For future reference, why not try reading this, because you might get some useful tips from it.


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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #1862
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im not saying im wrong. im saying i am willing to be wrong if someone has the facts to back it up. and thats not my outlook on life.

listen murdoc. thanks for the help but i can fight my own fight.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #1863
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it was not a world wide flood it was a flood that happened between the black sea and the medateranian sea that receeded a few thousand years ago. and dew to that information he only took two of every animal that was native to the area. and heck maybe by some freak of nature those animals that were there with noah mutated or what ever you want to call it during or after the flood andbecame the animals we know of today.
Story of Noah's Ark was a universal flood. The flood your thinking of is from the "Black Sea deluge theory", which has nothing to do with religion. Good try though. Allot of dumb-asses will say that universal is supposed to mean everything Noah could see from a distance, but that doesn't fit the definition so that's why they're dumb-asses.

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Wood is not the best material for shipbuilding. It is not enough that a ship be built to hold together; it must also be sturdy enough that the changing stresses don't open gaps in its hull. Wood is simply not strong enough to prevent separation between the joints, especially in the heavy seas that the Ark would have encountered. The longest wooden ships in modern seas are about 300 feet, and these require reinforcing with iron straps and leak so badly they must be constantly pumped. The ark was 450 feet long [ Gen. 6:15]. Could an ark that size be made seaworthy?

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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:46 PM   #1864
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im not saying im wrong. im saying i am willing to be wrong if someone has the facts to back it up.
No, that's not how debates work. You're the one making the claim: "There was a flood between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea." It's not up to us to disprove it, it's up to you to prove it. All we've been saying is that you have yet to bring up any evidence that supports that claim, and again, saying you saw a documentary on TV is not evidence.

Even if there was a flood, you would still have to prove that a man named Noah existed, you'd have to prove that he built a boat and got all those animals on it, you'd have to prove that God exists and that only he could have caused such a flood... the list goes on.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #1865
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okay try thinking of all this as if you were living back then. a flood that covered a large area of land to the point that water was completly surrounding you for hundreds of miles would seem like it covered the whole planet. and they were only on the sea for forty days and forty nights. you gotta think at that point they also thought the earth was flat.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #1866
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you gotta think at that point they also thought the earth was flat.
You also gotta think that they have since been proven completely wrong.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #1867
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okay try thinking of all this as if you were living back then. a flood that covered a large area of land to the point that water was completly surrounding you for hundreds of miles would seem like it covered the whole planet. and they were only on the sea for forty days and forty nights. you gotta think at that point they also thought the earth was flat.
There! You just proved the Bible is bullshit! Congratulations. The thread is over and we can all go home to eat some pie.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #1868
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i did not say the bible is bull shit i was saying that it has its rough spots and i was trying to show you guys that some of the things the bible talks about really happened. but obviously you guys are to blinded by what you understand.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #1869
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i did not say the bible is bull shit i was saying that it has its rough spots and i was trying to show you guys that some of the things the bible talks about really happened. but obviously you guys are to blinded by what you understand.
Bible has rough spots = Bible is bullshit.

Bible is unreasonable = Bible is bullshit.

There's no evidence of the flood = Flood is bullshit.

Noah didn't exist = Noah didn't exist.

Ok! Seems like we're done here. Can I go home now?

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #1870
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i did not say the bible is bull shit i was saying that it has its rough spots and i was trying to show you guys that some of the things the bible talks about really happened. but obviously you guys are to blinded by what you understand.
I think you're just blinded by ignorance, and your god delusion.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:06 PM   #1871
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okay two things who said the bible was unreasonable and who said noah didnt exist? what the fuck stop making shit up.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #1872
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okay two things who said the bible was unreasonable and who said noah didnt exist? what the fuck stop making shit up.
Noah's existence has yet to be proven, actually.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #1873
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You just said it had rough spots. You said they wrote what they could only see.
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okay try thinking of all this as if you were living back then. a flood that covered a large area of land to the point that water was completly surrounding you for hundreds of miles would seem like it covered the whole planet.
That has an unreasonable undertone to me.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #1874
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okay two things who said the bible was unreasonable
You said "it has its rough spots", which is a watered down meaning of you saying that The Bible has unreasonable bullshit. You just don't want to admit you agree because that would mean you would be wrong.

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and who said noah didnt exist? what the fuck stop making shit up.
I'm making shit up? Last time I checked it was The Bible with all the made up shit. Noah didn't exist because there's no factual records to prove his existence (other than The Bible ((Which isn't factual)) ).

Don't get angry man. I know it sucks being wrong. Trust me, I'm wrong all the time. I just failed a math test.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #1875
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im sry but that just crossed the line sweet pea.

and is it really three against one.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:15 PM   #1876
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im sry but that just crossed the line sweet pea.

and is it really three against one.
Why? You just called them ignorant.

Yes.
Because you're the only person who's willing to argue that humans, and dinosaurs coexisted, and that an invisible cloud man controls all.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:17 PM   #1877
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im sry but that just crossed the line sweet pea.

and is it really three against one.
It doesn't matter how many people are against one if the one person has facts and evidence on their side. Unfortunately, you do not.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:20 PM   #1878
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there you go again crossing the fucking line. listen guys i dont care about being wrong but im fighting for what i beleive in just like you guys. now if you guys want to keep fighting about it tomorrow i will happylly. ill be back on tomorrow. and im not giving up this fight.

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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:21 PM   #1879
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and im not giving up this fight.
Are you going to start using evidence?
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Old April 11th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #1880
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i guess i have to dont i? trust me i will find something and even if i dont ill still fight winning or not.

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