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Old April 21st, 2018, 08:41 AM   #1
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The government in my country have been forced by a citizen proposals to discuss about circumcision of boys under 18 should be prohibited in the entire country. Circumcision of girls is prohibited, but not boys.
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I think it's totally crazy to cut healthy childrens parts. What it was the right earlobe they cut off. How can ancient culture be such a big issue. It's 2018 for xxxx.
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Old April 21st, 2018, 09:46 AM   #2
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The government in my country have been forced by a citizen proposals to discuss about circumcision of boys under 18 should be prohibited in the entire country. Circumcision of girls is prohibited, but not boys.
What do you think?

I think it's totally crazy to cut healthy childrens parts. What it was the right earlobe they cut off. How can ancient culture be such a big issue. It's 2018 for xxxx.

Circumcision of boys is way different from female genital mutilation. It's nothing that can be compared.

There are different ways of fgm, all involve the (partial) removal of the clit. It's done for cultural reasons for taking away girls' pleasure. If you compare the anatomy of a boy and a girl on the embryo, the anatomy of the primary sexual organs is identical until a certain stage. If you would perform the same on boys, you would have to cut off their glans.

What is done during male circumcisions is the removal of a part of the foreskin which is identical to a removal of the clit hood for girls. Some girls do it for aesthetic reasons, it doesn't interfere with the ability to have sexual pleasure.

However, I get your point. What if a boy doesn't like it when he's older. That's why there has been a discussion in my country as well, eventually ending up in a new law that generally allows circumcisions for religious reasons, if being performed by a professional (not any religious circumciser).

Our constitution guarantees some fundamental rights such as the religious freedom, the freedom to educate and the right of the physical integrity. Our government has decided that the first rights outweigh the last one. Sadly, our constitutional court hasn't decided on this law, this would clarify whether it conforms with our constitution or not.

The main reason for the liberal law was the complaint of Jewish organizations and the fear of the politicians to be antisemitic. I don't think it's antisemitic to decide a law that protects the integrity of childrens' bodies. Nevertheless, I think it's been a good idea to allow it to parents.

If you would prohibit it, some parents would do it anyway. If no doctor performed it, they would let non-professionals do it, with high risks for the boys. Or they would simply do "holiday circumcisions" (that's a critical thing for girls from cultures that still perform fgm).
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 04:19 PM   #3
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The government in my country have been forced by a citizen proposals to discuss about circumcision of boys under 18 should be prohibited in the entire country. Circumcision of girls is prohibited, but not boys.
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I think it's totally crazy to cut healthy childrens parts. What it was the right earlobe they cut off. How can ancient culture be such a big issue. It's 2018 for xxxx.
Great to see a government that actually listen to the population.

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Old April 23rd, 2018, 04:22 PM   #4
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Denmark is doomed.
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Old April 23rd, 2018, 04:50 PM   #5
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Denmark is doomed.
No its not

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No its not
yes. yes it is.
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yes. yes it is.
Would be nice to have an explanation there

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Would be nice to have an explanation there
denmark is doomed. thay are going down the path of authoritarian-liberalism, a path that leads to mutually assured destruction.
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Because they want to ban circumcision? Don't you think you are exaggerating a little there

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Because they want to ban circumcision? Don't you think you are exaggerating a little there
banning circumcision is an authoritarian act so.. no.
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banning circumcision is an authoritarian act so.. no.
No its common sense, the only person who as the right to make the decision permanent, life changing procedure to your body is you.

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No its common sense, the only person who as the right to make the decision permanent, life changing procedure to your body is you.
BULL. it's a symbol of a civilized society.
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BULL. it's a symbol of a civilized society.
Its a symbol of a civilized society to not cut off the part of a baby's dick? sure its another way say it

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I was circumcised as a baby and today I am fine with being cut. But there are few good reasons for circumcising a new born baby which is almost automatic here in the US. Circumcisions should be the exception and not the rule.
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While I agree that it is great to see the government listening to its people, I don't believe that the religion, social, and medical rights of parents should be subject to government restrictions. Just to give you some background information as to where my opinions have been formed, I was circumcised as an adult and believe strongly that it is better to be circumcised.

Religious ceremonies should be treated with the respect and dignity that comes with age and tradition. As a Catholic, I would have my children baptized. To a Jewish or Islamic person, it would be no different to them as it would be to me to be told that baptism is banned. The argument that is often used is that circumcision leaves a permanent mark. While that is true, how many people change there religion? I'm sure that 99% of people that are circumcised for religious reasons are happy that it was done in the infant stage as it is a much more serious procedure as an adult.

Social reasons are also dismissed prematurely. Everyone pretends that these reasons are irrelevant, but they are. Growing up with family that is mostly circumcised, as a child, I believed that I was different, weird, and possibly inferior. I developed a complex at a young age. Seeing other people that seemed more shapely ans smooth made me think that theres was much better looking.

Let me also point out one last thing. There is a huge difference between female and male circumcision. There are no religions that require female circumcision. It is primarily performed for cultural reasons with the intentions of limiting or eliminating female sexual pleasure. It is also a much more dangerous procedure. Overall, it is very wrong to compare the male and female circumcision.


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While I agree that it is great to see the government listening to its people, I don't believe that the religion, social, and medical rights of parents should be subject to government restrictions. Just to give you some background information as to where my opinions have been formed, I was circumcised as an adult and believe strongly that it is better to be circumcised.

Religious ceremonies should be treated with the respect and dignity that comes with age and tradition. As a Catholic, I would have my children baptized. To a Jewish or Islamic person, it would be no different to them as it would be to me to be told that baptism is banned. The argument that is often used is that circumcision leaves a permanent mark. While that is true, how many people change there religion? I'm sure that 99% of people that are circumcised for religious reasons are happy that it was done in the infant stage as it is a much more serious procedure as an adult.

Social reasons are also dismissed prematurely. Everyone pretends that these reasons are irrelevant, but they are. Growing up with family that is mostly circumcised, as a child, I believed that I was different, weird, and possibly inferior. I developed a complex at a young age. Seeing other people that seemed more shapely ans smooth made me think that theres was much better looking.

Let me also point out one last thing. There is a huge difference between female and male circumcision. There are no religions that require female circumcision. It is primarily performed for cultural reasons with the intentions of limiting or eliminating female sexual pleasure. It is also a much more dangerous procedure. Overall, it is very wrong to compare the male and female circumcision.
I am amazed that we agree on something.
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I think it's totally crazy to cut healthy childrens parts. What it was the right earlobe they cut off. How can ancient culture be such a big issue. It's 2018 for xxxx.
It is also the year 5778 (Hebrew calendar) and circumcision has been taking place for nearly 6 millennia. So it's much older then ancient.





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I think it should be banned. Why ban it for girls but not boys? It should be his choice.

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I think it should be banned. Why ban it for girls but not girls? It should be his choice.
Because the circumcision of girls is done only for pain and to limit sexual pleasure. It is much more dangerous, painful, and challenging to recover from. Also, it has no religious backing.

(It is not a Muslim tradition, but an Arabic and African cultural practice). Had to mention that as I know someone's gonna challenge me on it.


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It is just fascinating to see how some people try to justify unnecessary and permanent modification of a little baby's body. Guess we should start tattooing newborns now since it's all good, but even tattoos are more reversible than circumcision.

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