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Old October 9th, 2006, 10:26 PM   #1
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In the last week or so, there has been an increased amount of insults and aggression to fellow debaters. I ask you today, is this the way that VT debating should be carried out? Shouldnt we find non-aggressive solutions to these arguments, and seek polite rebuttals to the arguments made? I would like to ask everyone to stop, and consider your opponents opinions, situations, perspectives, and, above all, feelings before you make a response. We will all be able to judge how intellegent or right we think you are by your posts. Not only is this a cry to stop the madness, but I would also like to know your opinions on how debating here should be carried out. thank you.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 05:27 AM   #2
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I think most people who can't debate are the ones that start throwing insults.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 02:02 PM   #3
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above all, feelings
If someone gets offended by a few words on a screen from someone they don't even know then they shouldn't bother with human contact at all.
Nothing wrong with livening up things a bit.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 02:03 PM   #4
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i agree with the part that debates should kinda be a little more soft, and with less flaming, but flaming does get inside of the part of debate... so just deal with it..

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Old October 10th, 2006, 03:25 PM   #5
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If someone gets offended by a few words on a screen from someone they don't even know then they shouldn't bother with human contact at all.
Nothing wrong with livening up things a bit.
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I think most people who can't debate are the ones that start throwing insults.
Is that so? I beg to differ.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 03:28 PM   #6
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Ok.. that was six in the morning... I don't know what I was thinking
Ignore that.

My real opinion: People who go into a debate and start to bash and call names just need to stay out.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 04:50 PM   #7
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If you look at the debate forum ingeneral you'll notice its a dog eat dog forum, why? Because its supposed to be! You go there to voice and defend your opinions, it natually gets a lil heated. That's what makes it entertaining, what if we were to apply the same flower power philosophy to sports? Do you really think it would be interesting if hocky players camly skated along, politley asked the oponient to move and then procedded to score? Do you think anyone would care? No, why? Because its boring!! Mine as well make senior shuffelboarding an olympic sport.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 06:28 PM   #8
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-In sulting ideas, with instults which you backed by facts and reason is ok. And I don't mean that its ok to "flame" their ideas in that sense.
-insulting ppl, in general ins't, and doesn't do any good.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 06:59 PM   #9
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i was talking about the random insults aimed directly at a specific person. usually with curse words, which is against the policy of VT

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Old October 10th, 2006, 07:20 PM   #10
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insults hurt my feelings =( people over the internet make me cry!!!

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Old October 10th, 2006, 07:26 PM   #11
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I had assumed as much (the last 2 posts lol)
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Old October 10th, 2006, 07:30 PM   #12
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insults hurt my feelings =( people over the internet make me cry!!!
Phantom, you may not care if you get insulted maliciously because of what you say, but I know that i can, and i really dont want people doing it, its ust hateful and supports the discussion none.

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Old October 10th, 2006, 08:32 PM   #13
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Phantom, you may not care if you get insulted maliciously because of what you say, but I know that i can, and i really dont want people doing it, its ust hateful and supports the discussion none.
Of course there are going to be flames in debate forums its just part of it. I usualy only flame if provoked or sombody says somthing stupid like "bush stupid!!" or "we kill little children U.S suxzorz!!!" then I flame I am trying to stop but when someone as stupid as popo calls me a dumbass then I am going to.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself John Stuart Mill
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Old October 10th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #14
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there is NO flaming on virtual teen. you can be aggressive in your rebutall all you want, you can challenge anything with any amount of bigotry and ignorance and i wont be offended, but as soon as you start making posts just for the sole purpose of INULTING someone else, you have crossed the line, you arent debating anymore, your just making a fool of yourself

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Old October 10th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #15
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agreed and thats clearly stated in the rules i've just been made a general forum mod instead of just the chronicle so if i see any flat out flaming i'll delete it
if i see allot i'll give a warning

but i'm not going to crack down on everything that will defeat the purpous of this forum
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Old October 10th, 2006, 11:42 PM   #16
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Fuck the rules of vt are you kidding me? This is a debate forum, Anyone can try to keep peace there gonna find it very difficult. I'll tell ya what, don't be a little shitass about something and stand up for your ideas with facts and answers and you can do whatever. I don't even like to debate with you guys anymore, you don't know how to do it, it gets sad, and I end up getting stoned and falling asleep in bordem. You get overly offended and way to into things. You take things to heart, and you gett all emotional and puss out. You think people care, because you care yourself but you gotta remember, were all totally different people in person and were sitting in some shitty spot talking shit!

lets all party, im throwing one on friday the 13th, its my friends birthday party, its my homewarming party, its also a party for like tons of other things, you all should come lol. But you won't becasue your a bunch of children and I forget that....

have you guys not banned me yet? why am i still a mod. I need to do something about this. for real. im super for real.


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Old October 11th, 2006, 12:33 AM   #17
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BY Kolte in this thread....
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Fuck the rules of vt are you kidding me? This is a debate forum, Anyone can try to keep peace there gonna find it very difficult....
You get overly offended and way to into things you gett all emotional and puss out.....
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You say you are an intellectual, yet you cannot show any respect to anyone else? Surly if you were an intellectual you would have the common curtsey to be open minded.
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I don't have a fucking degree in fucking socialist theory or anything you fucker. God I wish I could slit your throat online. You annoy me.
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stop calling him a liberal you fucktard. You don't even know what that word means. And when did he say he watched fucking cnn. What a load of bs. You should be lynched.
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Then why arent you rich. FUcker
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fuck iseral. Fuck the united states of america. Fuck capatilism. Fuck religion. Fuck mankind. BAH. I hope we all die.
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In fact I hope you die of starvation after your mother is raped in front of you with a splinterd tree branch. Go to hell you spoiled damn nerds.
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hmmm... was that before or after the part where u wished raped on mom with a splintery tree limb and the i would die of starvation?

Thaks for doing ur part in keeping the boards civil....

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Old October 11th, 2006, 02:35 AM   #18
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At this time, I will debate the debate forums (and flame them!) with a qoute:

"Internet arguments are like the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."

I also realize that is in extremely poor tastes, but then, I make an equal mockery of myself by posting that in a debate forum, so don't hate me. And as I said, it's a qoute. Someone else invented it. I am but the messenger!

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Old October 11th, 2006, 03:41 PM   #19
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Fuck the rules of vt are you kidding me? This is a debate forum, Anyone can try to keep peace there gonna find it very difficult. I'll tell ya what, don't be a little shitass about something and stand up for your ideas with facts and answers and you can do whatever. I don't even like to debate with you guys anymore, you don't know how to do it, it gets sad, and I end up getting stoned and falling asleep in bordem. You get overly offended and way to into things. You take things to heart, and you gett all emotional and puss out. You think people care, because you care yourself but you gotta remember, were all totally different people in person and were sitting in some shitty spot talking shit!

lets all party, im throwing one on friday the 13th, its my friends birthday party, its my homewarming party, its also a party for like tons of other things, you all should come lol. But you won't becasue your a bunch of children and I forget that....

have you guys not banned me yet? why am i still a mod. I need to do something about this. for real. im super for real.
LOL QFT!

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