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Old November 3rd, 2005, 11:23 PM   #21
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Cody, I am honestly shocked u would say that about mexico, i expect it from others but not you....why do u feel that way? or were u just joking?

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Old November 4th, 2005, 12:20 AM   #22
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The missle defence program would be initiated

awwwwwwww hun i NEVER thought id see the day

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Old November 4th, 2005, 12:42 AM   #23
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Cody, I am honestly shocked u would say that about mexico, i expect it from others but not you....why do u feel that way? or were u just joking?
You know me dante i'm transfixed by two things
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Ancient civalizations

Mexico has a BEAUTIFUL history and culture but if they join america they will severely hurt you're economy in there current state.
I'm not saying they could never join
I'm saying there not ready
They have a HORRIBLE economy
The majority are dirt poor
Wellfair would drain america dry
The health care requirments
You mine as well merge with africa (again another great country, the birth place of the human race, it also has SEVERE problems)

If canada and america merged it could make an extremly strong country from there you/we begin helping other countrys like mexico, africa, cuba w/e not saying they'd have to join but you/we could help them become more stable and prosperous

Mexico

Population: 106,202,903

Canada

Population: 32,805,041

Mexico Area:

total: 1,972,550 sq km
land: 1,923,040 sq km
water: 49,510 sq km

Canada Area:

total: 9,984,670 sq km
land: 9,093,507 sq km
water: 891,163 sq km


Mexico Economy Overview

Mexico has a free market economy that recently entered the trillion dollar class. It contains a mixture of modern and outmoded industry and agriculture, increasingly dominated by the private sector. Recent administrations have expanded competition in seaports, railroads, telecommunications, electricity generation, natural gas distribution, and airports. Per capita income is one-fourth that of the US; income distribution remains highly unequal. Trade with the US and Canada has tripled since the implementation of NAFTA in 1994. Mexico has 12 free trade agreements with over 40 countries including, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, the European Free Trade Area, and Japan, putting more than 90% of trade under free trade agreements. The government is cognizant of the need to upgrade infrastructure, modernize the tax system and labor laws, and provide incentives to invest in the energy sector, but progress is slow.

Canada Economy Overview

As an affluent, high-tech industrial society, newly entered in the trillion dollar class, Canada closely resembles the US in its market-oriented economic system, pattern of production, and affluent living standards. Since World War II, the impressive growth of the manufacturing, mining, and service sectors has transformed the nation from a largely rural economy into one primarily industrial and urban. The 1989 US-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) (which includes Mexico) touched off a dramatic increase in trade and economic integration with the US. Given its great natural resources, skilled labor force, and modern capital plant Canada enjoys solid economic prospects. Solid fiscal management has produced a long-term budget surplus which is substantially reducing the national debt, although public debate continues over how to manage the rising cost of the publicly funded healthcare system. Exports account for roughly a third of GDP. Canada enjoys a substantial trade surplus with its principal trading partner, the United States, which absorbs more than 85% of Canadian exports.

Mexico

GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.006 trillion (2004 est.)
GDP - real growth rate: 4.1% (2004 est.)
GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $9,600 (2004 est.)

Canada:

GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.023 trillion (2004 est.)
GDP - real growth rate: 2.4% (2004 est.)
GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $31,500 (2004 est.)

Mexico

Labor force: 34.73 million (2004 est.)

Canada

Labor force: 17.37 million (2004)

Mexico

Population below poverty line: 40% (2003 est.)

Canada

Population below poverty line: 15.9% (2003)

Mexico

Natural resources: petroleum, silver, copper, gold, lead, zinc, natural gas, timber

Canada

Natural resources: iron ore, nickel, zinc, copper, gold, lead, molybdenum, potash, diamonds, silver, fish, timber, wildlife, coal, petroleum, natural gas, hydropower


Mexico

Oil - proved reserves: 18 billion bbl (2004 est.)

Canada

Oil - proved reserves: 178.9 billion bbl including shale oil (2004 est.)

Mexico

Natural gas - proved reserves: 420 billion cu m (2004)

Canada

Natural gas - proved reserves: 1.691 trillion cu m (2004)

Mexico Exports - partners:

US 87.6%, Canada 1.8%, Spain 1.1% (2004)

Canada Export - partners:

US 85.2%, Japan 2.1%, UK 1.6% (2004)

Mexico Imports - partners:

US 53.7%, China 7%, Japan 5.1% (2004)

Canada Imports - partners:

US 58.9%, China 6.8%, Mexico 3.8% (2004)

Long story short America can benefit from merging with Canada then it can merging with Mexico
The state that mexico is currently in would hurt America severely



Hun my only prob with the missile defence was it took away allot of Canada's political negotiating power with America.
Now if our countries merged that prob would no longer exist would it?

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Old November 4th, 2005, 01:11 AM   #24
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ya but um... who would be president? we can only have one leader ya know..
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Old November 4th, 2005, 01:15 AM   #25
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popular vot hopfully


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ya but wed have 4 political parties and the whole canadian nation would be outvoted in a snap.. wed have to balence it somehow. maybe just consider them another state cuz they have the same pop as one? they could get 2 senators like everyone else
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I have no idea i'm not a politician

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http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/future.htm

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dude codesauce that doesnt include anyway of how voting would happen. maybe we should redraw all the canadian borders? the provinces are like twice as big as any single state we have, geographically it would make sense to break them up somehow. quebec has as much prestige as mexico in my point of view. they just need to be deported to some shithole island in the middle of nowhere



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Old November 4th, 2005, 02:03 AM   #29
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Actually, it wouldnt be fair to Canada if Canada and America merged, then Canada came under the American government solely.

That would seem like America controlls Canada. That wouldn't be fair.

I think that America and Canada should become one
I agree

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what?!?!? chhhhhh hu? chhhhh you're chhhhhhhh breaking up chhhhhhhhhhhh

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ok well if ur gunna mess around at least go on msn.

and at LEAST explain to me how two nations can seamlessly merge togeather. has this ever happened before in the history of the world? there are aquisitions, but never complete seamless integration. one country is always gunna end up retaining more of its culture... or influence rather.. than the other country. explain to me how it would work
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ok well if ur gunna mess around at least go on msn.

and at LEAST explain to me how two nations can seamlessly merge togeather. has this ever happened before in the history of the world? there are aquisitions, but never complete seamless integration. one country is always gunna end up retaining more of its culture... or influence rather.. than the other country. explain to me how it would work
True
But i want to make sure canada isn't takin over split up all to hell and takin advantage of either.

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Yea speaking of that Canada's still part of the common wealth

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wow britain will like fucking try and come pwn us they would never let us merge like that
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Old November 4th, 2005, 02:45 AM   #34
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What?
no!
We could either leave the Common Wealth
Or we could stay in it and when the countrys merged get the new one to be part of it aswell.

Being part of it dosent give the UK any political say over canada
It just means that we have a queen (she has zero say, can't intervene in the goverment or the runnings of the country....can't....do much at all period really) yet it gives canada very strong political relations with the UK and other common wealth countries


I like the thought of canada in it now because it means theres a better chance the United Kingdom has our back
But if canada n america merged....we wouldn't need them to watch our back

Still it'd be nice
travel is allot easier...

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think positive. our countries are already great friends



cody i know u have some more lets show them off shall we
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9. What about the Monarchy and Canada's ties to Great Britain?

The Monarchy would obviously have no place within a United North America, as it truly is an antiquated system of government that serves no real purpose in the 21st century. Furthermore, the US forbids all titles of nobility or royalty. However, ties to Britain would not be cut like a rope. Although the United States came into existence in resistance to British imperial rule, those days are long over. Most US citizens consider Britain to be their greatest ally and friend. Indeed, one could argue the US-British relationship is now stronger than the Canadian-British relationship. Union Jacks can be found all over America, and Canadian States would be welcome to retain their Union Jacks within their own State Flags (see Hawaii's State flag), as well as their British heritage.

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canada has no constitution. britain has no constistutin either :/

i think without any doubt in the world canada should fall under the protection of ours
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2. Isn't this website proposing that Canada join the United States?

By definition a merger is a joining of two things, and in the case of Canada and the US this amalgamation would not be one of two equal partners like so many politicians like to claim. To some this may seem like advocating that Canada join the United States. However, after such a Union the United States would not be the United States as we know it today. The Union would be a new Union, just as it was every time it expanded in the past. New populations bring with them a new cultural dynamic to the country as a whole. They change the geographic landscape as well as the political one. The populous, economy and overall philosophy of this new Union will be unlike what it was before.


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why dont you lobby your own ideas instead of those of a poorly designed website that has nothing to do with what i posted before you
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why dont you lobby your own ideas instead of those of a poorly designed website that has nothing to do with what i posted before you
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