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Old June 5th, 2019, 01:11 PM   #1
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MONTGOMERY, Al. (KDKA) – A bill to chemically castrate sex offenders is just one signature away from being legal in Alabama.

The legislation is known as HB 379, according to CBS-affiliate WIAT. The bill would make sex offenders have to undergo chemical castration before they leave prision.

The permanent and physical punishment would be required for people convicted of certain sex offenses against children.

Republican State Representative Steve Hurst introduced the legislation saying, “They have marked this child for life and the punishment should fit the crime.”

Hurst hopes that the legislation would make a sex offender think twice before acting.

“If we do something of this nature it would deter something like this happening again in Alabama and maybe reduce the numbers,” said Hurst to WIAT.

According to LegiScan, the bill passed through the house and was delivered on the desk of Alabama’s Governor, Kay Ivey.
Nothing says patriarchy like passing a bill that encroaches on men's bodies.

BTW, just so you know chemical castration isn't castration in the typical sense. It's basically the use of anaphrodisiac drugs to permanently reduce the sex drive. Nothing is cut off. There's also chemical castration for women, but it's not anywhere as common as male chemical castration.
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Old June 5th, 2019, 01:33 PM   #2
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Child sex offenders should have their balls AND dick cut off
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Old June 5th, 2019, 02:42 PM   #3
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Nothing says patriarchy like passing a bill that encroaches on men's bodies.

BTW, just so you know chemical castration isn't castration in the typical sense. It's basically the use of anaphrodisiac drugs to permanently reduce the sex drive. Nothing is cut off. There's also chemical castration for women, but it's not anywhere as common as male chemical castration.
Roy Moore is not gonna like that.

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Old June 5th, 2019, 03:17 PM   #4
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Roy Moore is not gonna like that.
I think old age already did the job for Moore. There's probably a good reason why the alleged assaults stopped around Moore's mid-40s.
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I think old age already did the job for Moore. There's probably a good reason why the alleged assaults stopped around Moore's mid-40s.
Well he got married for one, so I guess that was a consensual happy ending for him?

But I don’t know, the research on the efficacy of this procedure doesn’t stop pedos from being pedos, and it will definitely force the pharmaceutical companies to manufacture the drugs needed for this procedure and rake in big profits.

It’s one of those sound byte headlines that appeals to vengeance for political votes.

The state I think would be wiser to send money to identify dangerous people, and fund prisons to house these types of people.

Also are all of these individuals truly offenders, or did someone’s parents freak out on their daughters secret boyfriend who really might be a 17-19 age relationship, go through court system, and suddenly he’s labeled as a predator when relatively speaking it was a normal age teen relationship with a 2 year age gap.

People like that would get castrated chemically; and is that an over correction?
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I think old age already did the job for Moore. There's probably a good reason why the alleged assaults stopped around Moore's mid-40s.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy. These are the same people who supported a paedophile for senator over is slightly less conservative opponent and defended his actions.

@Uniquemind is probably right, this is just a big handjob to pharmaceutical companies

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Old June 6th, 2019, 08:19 PM   #7
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Where else but Alabama?

Child sex offenders are heinous individuals, but this is not the way to handle the problem.

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Where else but Alabama?

Child sex offenders are heinous individuals, but this is not the way to handle the problem.
If you have another solution, I'm all ears.
When these people get out of jail, they often do it again
So that may not be the right, moral solution, but that's a good one to protect other children
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Old June 7th, 2019, 08:24 PM   #9
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If you have another solution, I'm all ears.
When these people get out of jail, they often do it again
So that may not be the right, moral solution, but that's a good one to protect other children
The solution is to not get them out of jail on the statistical basis that citing the recidivism rate of this particular criminal profile.

Let people like this be studied by psychological academics both in life and also post-death upon autopsy, and figure out biological, genetic, and environmental models of what makes them attracted to the niche population they are attracted too.

If that means you give these prisoners a virtual reality to live in with cgi, fake sexual video games, then you do that for them with the goal of getting them OUT of the main population thatís normal.


And to an extent, pedophilia has been with humanity for a LONG time, and it should be studied through anthropological point of view and a historical one.

I know Christopher Columbus had a sex slave market and reward system to incentivize his best men in imperializing for Spain. It was totally unethical and anti-humanitarian.

But the fact remains, male physical sexual arousal toward a much younger age demographic was biologically and psychologically possible in humans, that arenít really evolved differently than humans today.

What separates modern humans from humans just 400-500 years ago? Itís social norms of what is and isnít appropriate for sexual relationships.


So science really needs to dig into what causes these attractions to be studied as it is harmful to modern society. As these people donít fit into society anymore.
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Old June 7th, 2019, 10:01 PM   #10
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Also are all of these individuals truly offenders, or did someoneís parents freak out on their daughters secret boyfriend who really might be a 17-19 age relationship, go through court system, and suddenly heís labeled as a predator when relatively speaking it was a normal age teen relationship with a 2 year age gap.

People like that would get castrated chemically; and is that an over correction?
That's a pretty good point actually: 'sex offender' is a very broad legal term that covers a wide range of crimes and age groups, from much older people who commit offenses with underage people to people barely over the limit having sexual relations with people just under it like in your example. Hell, it's been used for people also underage as well in some cases. If they start chemically castrating offenders, where do they draw the line?
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Old June 8th, 2019, 05:09 AM   #11
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Those idiots with their damn penchant for ancient legislation. Seems there's a creeping Islamization of Alabama's legislation in progress, if you put the typical stereotype of a backward Islamic jurisprudence (stoning and such) to the 'Bamers. And curches become mosques.





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Those idiots with their damn penchant for ancient legislation. Seems there's a creeping Islamization of Alabama's legislation in progress, if you put the typical stereotype of a backward Islamic jurisprudence (stoning and such) to the 'Bamers. And curches become mosques.
Letís be fair, such laws is beyond Abrahamic faithís appeal to physical painful punishment through fear.

Itís an appeal to easy-thinking and emotional need to have revenge on a threat to loved ones. Everyone hates pedos, because we mentally envision ourselves as children again being tricked and hurt by such people.

This is as ancient class Puritan Christianity, or old Judaism, as it is Islamic, regarding capital punishment.
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@Uniquemind - That is why I especially mentioned the clichť aspect of this imputation, which imo is kinda widespread among the average folks in the western world.





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Old June 8th, 2019, 10:36 AM   #14
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Child sex offenders should have their balls AND dick cut off
And if they are women then what?
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If you have another solution, I'm all ears.
When these people get out of jail, they often do it again
So that may not be the right, moral solution, but that's a good one to protect other children
I think I might have solution. My solution is lets establish pedo city for them. Let them live there. Also we could legalize child sex dolls and deep fake porn.

Also I would like to point out that Germany has done good job with its pedos. They established preventive program where pedos who have not offended get help. Also I would like to point out that not all child sex offenders are actually pedos many of them are just generally sexual predators who take advantage of situation. Feeling of power right.
Where I live age of consent is 16. So it means that technically if 16 years old has voluntary sex with 66 years old no one can do anything. Its still not seen as kosher.
Sweden has same system basicly but age is 15. So there are lots of countries in world where attitude towards teensex is more allowing than in USA.
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I think I might have solution. My solution is lets establish pedo city for them. Let them live there. Also we could legalize child sex dolls and deep fake porn.

Also I would like to point out that Germany has done good job with its pedos. They established preventive program where pedos who have not offended get help. Also I would like to point out that not all child sex offenders are actually pedos many of them are just generally sexual predators who take advantage of situation. Feeling of power right.
Where I live age of consent is 16. So it means that technically if 16 years old has voluntary sex with 66 years old no one can do anything. Its still not seen as kosher.
Sweden has same system basicly but age is 15. So there are lots of countries in world where attitude towards teensex is more allowing than in USA.
You know what? If you had approached 9 year old me, and law enforcement wanted to use me as the basis for a CGI version of me, that would be used by law enforcement to let pedos have their fake-virtual world in a prison so they can be removed from larger society, I would have said yes; just give me a 5% royalty fee for my likeness and ensure such content is only available in the prison computer system.


Sex toy and festish industry would become part of the national security administration.
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Some states have a 'dangerousness' hearing if a sex offender is about to be paroled. If two state provided therapists find she is not a risk to the public, she'll get paroled. If either one or both find she may still be a risk, she is kept in prison, but it's not considered incarceration.

I don't know why they only do it with sex offenders, given the recidivism rate of violent criminals.
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Some states have a 'dangerousness' hearing if a sex offender is about to be paroled. If two state provided therapists find she is not a risk to the public, she'll get paroled. If either one or both find she may still be a risk, she is kept in prison, but it's not considered incarceration.

I don't know why they only do it with sex offenders, given the recidivism rate of violent criminals.
I believe it’s a flaw in the legal system.

It’s also a flaw in the educational system, as many college level studies on childhood psycho-social development studies are completely stonewalled by ethical concerns coming from LGBTQ+ activism groups.

Their fears are such educational studies are grounds for great mental harm, in the same way discovery of genetics lead to pseudoscience and eugenics policies.

It’s a real dilemma.

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A tangential discussion though should ask :

What exactly is sexual arousal and lust in general? What in the population at large shapes attractions? We know pheromones exist, but for homo sapien sapiens, sociology plays a huge role in what is defined as “attractive or ideal beauty or handsomeness”.

I mean economic and marketing psychologists can do some orbital research in the field of these things in the mean time.

We know to an extent visual attractiveness is mathematical, it’s why humans can appreciate works of art in statues or drawings that exemplify the beauty ideal.

Within those shapes, (hourglass bodies, washboard abs) we know it’s lead to a mental health crisis about representation concerns about various body types, but not from an attraction standpoint.


And since we’re talking about visual attraction, this conversation skews a bit toward males here, but doesn’t exclude women either. But women’s attraction seems more complex as they seem more holistic on average judging the emotional tenor and tone of social interaction with a prospective mating opportunity rather than men, who most likely say yes to sex even if a total stranger that’s a classically beautiful stereotype.

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Itís also a flaw in the educational system, as many college level studies on childhood psycho-social development studies are completely stonewalled by ethical concerns coming from LGBTQ+ activism groups.

Their fears are such educational studies are grounds for great mental harm, in the same way discovery of genetics lead to pseudoscience and eugenics policies.

Itís a real dilemma.
I've heard of studies which show gays are more likely to break laws relating to sexual activity (either age related or non-consensual) and they have been stonewalled because they were politically incorrect, though true.
But I don't have any hard data on how much this goes on.

What are your sources?

It's really not a dilemma at all. It's important to have facts to be able to intelligently discuss a situation. That one group may find it uncomfortable to accept the facts, doesn't make them not true. There are many studies showing men to be more aggressive than women, that men are more likely to break the law. We don't hide those studies because their conclusions are uncomfortable for men.

The correct action is to make the studies public and educate the public on what they mean, preventing biased laws from being passed.

How do we benefit as a society by hiding the truth?
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I've heard of studies which show gays are more likely to break laws relating to sexual activity (either age related or non-consensual) and they have been stonewalled because they were politically incorrect, though true.
But I don't have any hard data on how much this goes on.

What are your sources?

It's really not a dilemma at all. It's important to have facts to be able to intelligently discuss a situation. That one group may find it uncomfortable to accept the facts, doesn't make them not true. There are many studies showing men to be more aggressive than women, that men are more likely to break the law. We don't hide those studies because their conclusions are uncomfortable for men.

The correct action is to make the studies public and educate the public on what they mean, preventing biased laws from being passed.

How do we benefit as a society by hiding the truth?
Facts are hatespeech if those facts are wrongthink.
There is official ideologically accepted truth and if some fact is against that truth then to the hell with facts.
That is how current system works in EU and Canada and USA and Australia etc.
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