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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:19 AM   #21
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overcome., ED's are not all about being thin, it goes a lot deeper than that, it could have developed due to sexual abuse/molest/rape, it could have developed due to trauma, it could develop due to grief, it could develop due to needing control in one's life, it could develop due to bullying, it could develop due to abuse/neglect, there are dozens of reasons why it can develop & I personally don't think they commonly develop due to magazines/models/wanting to be thin, it can do, however, I think the other reasons I've stated are much more likely, and even if it does develop due to wanting to be thin, there are more than likely to be deeper root causes than that.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:20 AM   #22
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overcome., ED's are not all about being thin, it goes a lot deeper than that, it could have developed due to sexual abuse/molest/rape, it could have developed due to trauma, it could develop due to grief, it could develop due to needing control in one's life, it could develop due to bullying, it could develop due to abuse/neglect, there are dozens of reasons why it can develop & I personally don't think they commonly develop due to magazines/models/wanting to be thin, it can do, however, I think the other reasons I've stated are much more likely, and even if it does develop due to wanting to be thin, there are more than likely to be deeper root causes than that.
Ok, I don't know where you have got your information from.

The main aspect of anorexia and bulimia is an extreme fear of being fat and the unrelenting pursuit of weight loss. So why you are saying that wanting to be thin is only one select reason behind the development of ED's is truly beyond me.

Sexual abuse has not been found to dictate whether or not one develops an ED but it has been found to dictate the type of ED that one develops.

Female victims of bullying as well as the female bullies themselves have been found to be at greater likelihood of having an eating disorder so you'll probably find that the key here is back to preoccupation with body shape which is rooted in socio-cultural perceptions of the "ideal body" (models, actresses etc).

The whole thing about needing control is not isolated to EDs so it can't cause you to develop an ED per se. It contributes to you turning to a maladaptive pattern of behaviours but not towards any one in particular. You can turn to self harm for that sense of control as well, for example.


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Old March 17th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #23
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Those are the SYMPTOMS of an ED, not the root cause(s) & the REASONS behind it.
That is the SURFACE of an ED.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 11:47 AM   #24
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Those are the SYMPTOMS of an ED, not the root cause(s) & the REASONS behind it.
That is the SURFACE of an ED.
You seem to fail to realise that you have to want to lose weight in order to develop anorexia or bulimia which have the main goal of losing weight.

You also seem to have dismissed the other points I've addressed.


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Old March 17th, 2010, 12:26 PM   #25
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Actually, no you don't...
Completely ignorant to ED's obviously.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #26
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Actually, no you don't...
Completely ignorant to ED's obviously.
Lol.
Pray tell me, how is that?


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Old March 17th, 2010, 12:42 PM   #27
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Dude, I'm not in the mood to debate this with you, but your ignorance on ED's is really not going to change by the looks of it, so I'm pretty much done here.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 01:02 PM   #28
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Dude, I'm not in the mood to debate this with you, but your ignorance on ED's is really not going to change by the looks of it, so I'm pretty much done here.
I'll have you know that I do know about the causes of EDs (particularly anorexia and bulimia) and that everything I said can be backed up with sources.

Thin ideal as cause of development of ED's - Thompson and Stice (2001) http://www.jstor.org/pss/20182734
Sexual abuse determines type of ED rather than development - Waller (1991) http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/159/5/664
Eating disorders affecting both female bullies and female bully victims - Kaltiala-Heino et al (2000) http://doi.apa.org/?uid=2001-14138-002
Need for control as reason for self harm - http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealt...self-harm.aspx

You may have (or have had) one but that does not mean that you know all there is to know about the causes. Just like how I know about the causes but not about how it actually is to suffer from one.


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Old March 17th, 2010, 02:26 PM   #29
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Clearly you don't know about the causes, I'm not interested in those links, I know the facts & I know that wanting to lose weight/be thin is not even scraping the surface of why ED's develop.

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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #30
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Clearly you don't know about the causes, I'm not interested in those links, I know the facts & I know that wanting to lose weight/be thin is not even scraping the surface of why ED's develop.

Bye now.
Lol, denial is a wonderful thing judging by your replies.
How can you know all the facts if you seemingly refuse to read something not written by an ED sufferer?
When professors and doctors of psychology and psychiatry have provided me with knowledge on the symptoms, differences and causes of ED's in the form of lectures and peer-reviewed articles, I find it very amusing to see you commenting on my ignorance on this topic.


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Can you two stop threadjacking, thanks.

Yes, a fear of being fat. But why, would be other issues.
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Can you two stop threadjacking, thanks.

Yes, a fear of being fat. But why, would be other issues.
Yes, both sides can be correct.
The reason behind the fear of being fat is rooted in socio-cultural perceptions of the ideal body. In Western culture, the ideal body is thin and we are bombarded by things confirming this.
I had mentioned this...


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I have an eating disorder. I love food with a passion and can't stop eating. I get bored and eat I think. I'm constantly snacking on something. A cookie here and dog nut there, even though I have plenty of fruit and veggies and try to shy away from breads and spuds.I still find myself snacking on the bad stuff. Anyway with this darn desk job it's starting to take a toll. I'm pushing 20 lbs overweight and I'm not happy about it.
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The reason behind the fear of being fat is rooted in socio-cultural perceptions of the ideal body.
Sure as hell isn't why I have issues with food. If anything, I'm going as far from the 'idea' that society wants for me..

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Sure as hell isn't why I have issues with food. If anything, I'm going as far from the 'idea' that society wants for me..
I never said it was the only reason. I just said I couldn't see why she was dismissing it so quickly since it is a large reason as to why many people develop these ED's.


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Old March 18th, 2010, 09:09 AM   #36
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I'm not dismissing it, if you read properly, you'd see I said there are other more common reasons.

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