Shoutbox

What is it's exact purpose? Is there a specific guideline as to what you can and can't post in there? Also, why is "spamming" the shoutbox bad? Is there a certain number of posts you can make in a row or something? Or do mods and admins just get angry or what?

Thanks, Jeff.

In general, the shoutbox is NOT to be used for conversations. Spamming in my opinion is when someone repeatedly posts smileys or if someone posts more than 5-10 shouts with no response.

What's its purpose...nothing...

I think before jessi classed it as when people post so much that its all you can see nless you scroll down

Originally Posted by Cloud

I think before jessi classed it as when people post so much that its all you can see nless you scroll down

That would be biased info.

And if it has no reason why keep it? It just begs to be used "wrongly".

and how would it?
warnings are given when people spam anyway so no excuse for not knowing

"In the Shoutbox the main purpose for posting is to shout something out. Conversations are not encouraged. However, a short conversation (ie that doesn't cover the entire shoutbox screen that you can see on the index page) are allowed as long as they occur within the broader site rules to allow for some common sense and general comments to someone's shout."

"[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: Maybe it'll shut your ego up.
[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: And shove it down your goddamn throat.
[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: I will take this number. http://media.photobucket.com/image/c...g?t=1192377482"

That falls under the rule of "Do not attack or harass any members. Non-registered members also have the ability to view this site, and seeing attacks will likely give them a negative view of this site. If this guideline is flagrantly ignored, your post(s) will be seen as a violation to our no fighting/flaming/bashing policy."

These are all common rules and this explains what the shoutbox is for. You attacked myself and act like you aren't breaking any rules. Rules which are publically displayed and rules that you are suppose to read when you sign up for an account.

Quoted from the FAQ's.

"An excessive use of smilies in the Shoutbox or posts is also not allowed."

I was using neither excessive smileys or posting too much. My posts were even with the other. There were 7 active users, and my posts never outnumbered anyone elses. No rules broken I would say.

Warnings can't be given if there isn't an explicitly set guideline to go by that the members know. If there isn't a rule laid out in the rules about spamming the shoutbox, it isn't enforceable. Rules can't be enforced if they aren't published for all to see. I hear the guidelines for shoutbox spam are in the mod section, but that doesn't do the members any good whatsoever.

ATM i cant remember the exact rule on this...
but i do think it's at mods discretion...
example. if there are over 10 messages within a minute from whoever i consider that spamming... and such conversation should be taken to pm

if the conversation has to be scrolled down .. that is spamming..

continuous messages from one person = spamming..
and so on.

The shoutbox is BARELY moderated because people it's just a place to post random things that follow the rules. When we do mod it, then it's because of someone posting a lot of smilies, having convos, or posting over and over again and then it's only a warning.

Originally Posted by Tiberius

"In the Shoutbox the main purpose for posting is to shout something out. Conversations are not encouraged. However, a short conversation (ie that doesn't cover the entire shoutbox screen that you can see on the index page) are allowed as long as they occur within the broader site rules to allow for some common sense and general comments to someone's shout."

"[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: Maybe it'll shut your ego up.
[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: And shove it down your goddamn throat.
[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Motormouth: I will take this number. http://media.photobucket.com/image/c...g?t=1192377482"

That falls under the rule of "Do not attack or harass any members. Non-registered members also have the ability to view this site, and seeing attacks will likely give them a negative view of this site. If this guideline is flagrantly ignored, your post(s) will be seen as a violation to our no fighting/flaming/bashing policy."

These are all common rules and this explains what the shoutbox is for. You attacked myself and act like you aren't breaking any rules. Rules which are publically displayed and rules that you are suppose to read when you sign up for an account.

Oh cut the narcissistic crap. And don't act all innocent. Please.

[Today 09:37 PM] Tiberius: Oh boo hoo, please take a number. The complaint box is over there...
[Today 09:33 PM] Motormouth: It should be a democracy. Or a monarchy/dictatorship. Pick an extreme. No halfway shit.
[Today 09:30 PM] Motormouth: Oligarchy eh? That's like one of the top three worst governments. Yippee.

That provoked me anyway. Along with the thread that got shot down earlier today that set me off. Sooo...


BLAME THE MODS!!!!!!!!!!

the purpose of the shoutbox is to shout out ones feeling or opinion in a brief way. there are rules regarding the shoutbox, and they come under the same rules regarding posting in threads in general. spamming is considered as posting many times in a row in text, or a ridiculous number of smilies in a row. this is the main rule that is broken in the shoutbox. also, the shoutbox is for shouts and not conversations. conversations are encouraged to take place either in the flashchat or private messages or an instant messenger service. however, i do think the rules regarding the usage of the shoutbox need to be clearer and i'll try and have that taken care of. hope that has answered your questions?

Originally Posted by Gumleaf

the purpose of the shoutbox is to shout out ones feeling or opinion in a brief way. there are rules regarding the shoutbox, and they come under the same rules regarding posting in threads in general. spamming is considered as posting many times in a row in text, or a ridiculous number of smilies in a row. this is the main rule that is broken in the shoutbox. also, the shoutbox is for shouts and not conversations. conversations are encouraged to take place either in the flashchat or private messages or an instant messenger service. however, i do think the rules regarding the usage of the shoutbox need to be clearer and i'll try and have that taken care of. hope that has answered your questions?

Whoa. Thank you. A kind answer. Thank you very much.

Since your thread in ROTW was locked..here is my post to you...

The first one was closed because it turned into insults and bashing. It was rightfully closed and I would have done the same thing if I were still a mod. The second one was closed because I reported it. It was in my opinion trolling and trying to start an argument. I know you're trying to make a point, and although I agree with your point, you weren't going about it the way it should have been done.

The first one was DEFINITELY locked for an appropriate reason and the second one was also, just not so definite. Procedure for questioning a mods decision is to PM that mod or a senior staff member, NOT making a thread about it...those thread can expect to be locked and will most of the time be locked.

There wouldn't be a rule against being a prick if nobody took insults seriously. I'll leave you all to interpret that as you may.

There also wouldn't be a rule if people didn't childishly insult each other over the internet.

I forgot we had one lol

Originally Posted by Empty Misery

There also wouldn't be a rule if people didn't childishly insult each other over the internet.

yeah! lol

Originally Posted by Empty Misery

There also wouldn't be a rule if people didn't childishly insult each other over the internet.

There's a little problem with that called human nature.

Originally Posted by theOperaGhost

Warnings can't be given if there isn't an explicitly set guideline to go by that the members know. If there isn't a rule laid out in the rules about spamming the shoutbox, it isn't enforceable. Rules can't be enforced if they aren't published for all to see. I hear the guidelines for shoutbox spam are in the mod section, but that doesn't do the members any good whatsoever.

The rules state quite clearly that spamming isn't allowed. That's all that needs to be said. Why would it be necessary to list every medium on this site (i.e. forum, PM system, blogs, social groups)?

Also warnings can be given even if it isn't explicitly defined. As its always said in our rules:

Unwritten (implied) rules still apply, as they are common sense.