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Old December 9th, 2017, 04:38 PM   #21
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Being a Republican i really can't complain about how my party's underrepresented. I think it's manly to how reported they are. You don't see any commercials for the communist party or for the green party. QRepublicans and democrats spend tremondos amounts on ads but other party's don't. I think each party should have a set amount of money to campaign and you would see America's views better represented.
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Old December 10th, 2017, 12:47 AM   #22
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Being a Republican i really can't complain about how my party's underrepresented. I think it's manly to how reported they are. You don't see any commercials for the communist party or for the green party. QRepublicans and democrats spend tremondos amounts on ads but other party's don't. I think each party should have a set amount of money to campaign and you would see America's views better represented.
People would still not vote for them because they would be scared or don't want one of the major party to get in.

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Old December 10th, 2017, 11:48 AM   #23
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People would still not vote for them because they would be scared or don't want one of the major party to get in.
What would they have to be afraid of?
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Old December 10th, 2017, 12:16 PM   #24
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What would they have to be afraid of?
Splitting the vote. With the example of the most recent US election, most Greens, Libertarians and Dems greatly opposed Trump as president. Therefore, many people who may have voted Green or Libertarian under normal, less divisive circumstances, would have felt that voting any other party but Democrat would have done nothing but split the anti-Trump vote. I mean, I hate Hillary with a passion but even I would have voted for her if it meant preventing Trump from power.
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Old December 10th, 2017, 06:24 PM   #25
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I'm not sure that joining to behind one party to crush another is really helping democracy. It means leaving behind the party you support to help one you don't tottaly agree with. Seems more likely to further push them selves close to a 2 party system. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
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Old December 10th, 2017, 08:18 PM   #26
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At this point a vote for a third party would just be a wasted vote

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Old December 10th, 2017, 08:25 PM   #27
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@ShineintheDark @Sword of the morning Both parties are constantly trying to portrait the other as dangerous and crazy and this fear mongering as the effect of scaring off people from voting for a different party out of fear the crazy people will get in power.

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I'm not sure that joining to behind one party to crush another is really helping democracy. It means leaving behind the party you support to help one you don't tottaly agree with. Seems more likely to further push them selves close to a 2 party system. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
This is a direct result of FPTP and why you need to change the electoral system before thinking of voting for new parties. And it is even worst for the presidential election because of the requirement that to win you need 50% plus 1 of the electoral college votes.

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Old December 11th, 2017, 05:15 AM   #28
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@ShineintheDark @Sword of the morning Both parties are constantly trying to portrait the other as dangerous and crazy and this fear mongering as the effect of scaring off people from voting for a different party out of fear the crazy people will get in power.



This is a direct result of FPTP and why you need to change the electoral system before thinking of voting for new parties. And it is even worst for the presidential election because of the requirement that to win you need 50% plus 1 of the electoral college votes.
The last part sucks majorly, that whole system is broken.

Also yeah, I totally get the idea of big bad x having a possibility to win, so you urge people to vote for big bad y because only y has a chance of stopping evil x. The same happened here in 2012. Now the opposition is fractured, while the "Progressives" strongarmed two thirds of the Parliament in their support.

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Old December 13th, 2017, 02:15 AM   #29
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The short answer is because there is not a third party with a lot of money backing it to compete with the other two.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 02:53 PM   #30
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The short answer is because there is not a third party with a lot of money backing it to compete with the other two.
Not now, but if they get over some percentage of the popular vote, they get money from the state for their next election campaign.

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Old December 24th, 2017, 06:13 PM   #31
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I would vote 3rd party for sure. Might have a chance in the years to come. I think we're getting close.
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