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Old November 21st, 2017, 05:40 AM   #1
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Default Nebraska Approve Keystone XL Four Days After Major Leak

Four days, four fucking days after a 800,000 litres leak they approve it, this would be like if after a plane crash Boeing ignored the caused and started building hundreds of new planes with the same problem that caused the crash.

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TransCanada Corp.'s Keystone XL pipeline won approval Monday from regulators in Nebraska, but state regulators did not OK the company's preferred route.

Instead, the commission approved the so-called "mainline alternative route" for the pipeline, which is a slightly different path from the preferred route proposed by TransCanada. Pipeline opponents were cheered by the result.

As approved, the pipeline would run farther northeast than was originally proposed.

During a brief meeting held in Lincoln, Neb., the state's five-member Public Service Commission voted 3-2 in favour of the proposed $10-billion, 1,900-kilometre pipeline. The commission had been charged with deciding whether the project was in the state's interest. Nebraska was the last state along the route to give its approval to Keystone XL.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/nebr...tone-1.4409960

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Old November 21st, 2017, 10:16 AM   #2
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Or not approving the pipeline would be like stopping all world airplanes from flying after one of them had an accident...


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...this would be like if after a plane crash Boeing ignored the caused and started building hundreds of new planes with the same problem that caused the crash.
Well according to your logic, the cause would be that the plane existed, therefore the answer would be get rid of all planes. That's basically your logic, an oil pipe leaked, therefore we should get rid of all oil pipes.

Given your example, the far more logical thing to do would be for Boeing to check their plane for the cause of the crash, fix it, and then keep producing planes. In a similar manner, whoever runs the pipeline needs to figure out the cause of the leak, fix that weakness, and then keep working on the pipe. You simply cannot say because something broke, it is therefore too dangerous or faulty to use. That logic just doesn't fly (pun not intended).

Also, this isn't exactly a "major" leak. It's less than a quarter of an Olympic swimming pool to put it in perspective, and most everyone has already moved on from it. On scale, this is the drippy facet you may have in your sink, far from a "major" problem.

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Old November 21st, 2017, 11:55 AM   #4
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The reason that's insufficient response is because of the pattern of how well a company cleans up after a spill, and doesn't really pay for the damages or ecological-economic value that is lost to a region.

You'd think that for this specific outcome to have been warned about before pipeline existed...prevention measures were they even done? That's what people are thinking.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 04:02 PM   #5
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Or not approving the pipeline would be like stopping all world airplanes from flying after one of them had an accident...
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Well according to your logic, the cause would be that the plane existed, therefore the answer would be get rid of all planes. That's basically your logic, an oil pipe leaked, therefore we should get rid of all oil pipes.

Given your example, the far more logical thing to do would be for Boeing to check their plane for the cause of the crash, fix it, and then keep producing planes. In a similar manner, whoever runs the pipeline needs to figure out the cause of the leak, fix that weakness, and then keep working on the pipe. You simply cannot say because something broke, it is therefore too dangerous or faulty to use. That logic just doesn't fly (pun not intended).
With the small difference that with airplanes the problem can be fixed and made safer and they will eventually become more environmentally friendly, pipelines this is the best we can do.

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Also, this isn't exactly a "major" leak. It's less than a quarter of an Olympic swimming pool to put it in perspective, and most everyone has already moved on from it. On scale, this is the drippy facet you may have in your sink, far from a "major" problem.
This is still a lot of oil leaking ready to contaminate farmland and water supply.

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The reason that's insufficient response is because of the pattern of how well a company cleans up after a spill, and doesn't really pay for the damages or ecological-economic value that is lost to a region.

You'd think that for this specific outcome to have been warned about before pipeline existed...prevention measures were they even done? That's what people are thinking.
Those companies know they are working in a dying industry and by doing the proper prevention to avoid leaks like last week's they would lose too much time and money.

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