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Old November 15th, 2017, 06:50 PM   #1
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I really don't understand the rule about having to wait 30 seconds between search. What is the reason for this? I think it might be for preventing spam, but I don't think this rule is very practical.

Adding on, I am sure the rule for waiting 45 seconds between sending private messages is to prevent spam, but I think that for users with 500+ posts, they shouldn't need to. Unless the person is really untrusted, however there are many users out there who could probably be trusted to not spam here. I think the 45 seconds wait for posting private messages is a bit annoying. If it were to prevent spam, why not implement it into posting replies to threads?

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Old November 16th, 2017, 03:28 AM   #2
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Like you say, it's to prevent spamming. It also reduces the load work on the server. Though, a time limit between posts already exists - it's 30 seconds I believe.



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Old November 16th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #3
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Honestly, I don't think that having to wait 45 seconds is absurd. It's not like we're asking you to wait minutes.. it's 1.25% of the seconds that you get in an an hour. If you need to send PMs faster than you can click from one to the next, and type your reply, you probably only need to wait max 15-20 seconds.. which come on, it isn't that long. If it's for mistakes in PMs or something that you're trying to fix, 45 seconds isn't the end of the world. It's a spam control thing, and a server load thing as Endeavour said, as is the search wait, as is the post wait, which is 20 seconds.

As for your suggestion to modify them for users with "x" posts, that's not an option with vbulletin. It's one setting that is broadly set for everyone. You'd be surprised just who you think you can trust, but you really can't.

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Old November 16th, 2017, 01:12 PM   #4
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Obviously the issue with spamming and servers make sense. But in reality, I know I like to read the message once or twice and processed what was said before I type a response. I realize sometimes questions are being asked or not all answers are very long but it is not an absurd wait time for private messaging. I did not realize there was a wait for searches, but again 30 seconds is not a big deal. If you really want, check out another browser while you wait if it is that big of a deal.

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Old November 16th, 2017, 04:29 PM   #5
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Thanks. I don't seem to realize there is a post time limit.

I am not sure if this can be done in vBulletin, but maybe change the rules into a user can post up to 4 private messages every 5 minutes? It is still equal to the 45 second wait. I would like that since I would like to be able to reply to private messages as soon as possible, however I only receive like 2 or 3 messages every day. Like once a user posts a message, a 5 minute timer will start, and that user can post 3 more messages until the 5 minutes ends. Does this sound good? Let me know if this cannot be done.

BTW I am posting this reply and posting a reply to a different thread at the same time just to test the post limit.

Yep. Just realized about the 20 second wait for posting replies. Why is the replies wait 20 seconds, while private messages is 45 seconds?

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Old November 16th, 2017, 07:37 PM   #6
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If you get 2-3 pmís a day, then how would this be beneficial?
Iíve noticed the wait thing before, itís a little annoying, but also, if youíre shooting off pms and posts that fast, you might wana take a little more time and thought about what your saying. Sometimes, and Iím not saying you, you might type something then realize you shoulda coulda woulda said that differently if you had only takes a few seconds more
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Old November 16th, 2017, 09:07 PM   #7
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If you get 2-3 pmís a day, then how would this be beneficial?
Iíve noticed the wait thing before, itís a little annoying, but also, if youíre shooting off pms and posts that fast, you might wana take a little more time and thought about what your saying. Sometimes, and Iím not saying you, you might type something then realize you shoulda coulda woulda said that differently if you had only takes a few seconds more
Like i only check PMs once or three times a day. But now I am starting to receive more PMs.

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Old November 16th, 2017, 09:34 PM   #8
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you're not getting so many pm's that you need to be able to check them more than once a minute, give me a break.

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Old November 16th, 2017, 10:46 PM   #9
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you're not getting so many pm's that you need to be able to check them more than once a minute, give me a break.
I was just posting using old statistics from a month ago. I now receive like 4 or 5 PMs a day.

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I was just posting using old statistics from a month ago. I now receive like 4 or 5 PMs a day.
To be fair to her point though, if you receive 4 or 5 a day, is it really a big deal you got to wait 45 second in between receiving them? Even if you had to wait a full minute, that is five minutes out of your day (obviously less of waiting since it is not the full minute). you probably wait longer for them to respond a lot of the times. even if your only changing one email between a person back and fourth and are doing it with 4-5 people, 45 seconds is, respectfully, not that big of a deal.

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Old November 17th, 2017, 07:52 AM   #11
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To be fair to her point though, if you receive 4 or 5 a day, is it really a big deal you got to wait 45 second in between receiving them? Even if you had to wait a full minute, that is five minutes out of your day (obviously less of waiting since it is not the full minute). you probably wait longer for them to respond a lot of the times. even if your only changing one email between a person back and fourth and are doing it with 4-5 people, 45 seconds is, respectfully, not that big of a deal.
I would really like if the post limit is 4 messages in ever 5 minutes. Still equal to the 45 seconds.

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I would really like if the post limit is 4 messages in ever 5 minutes. Still equal to the 45 seconds.
I don't have access to that part of the site, but I'm fairly certain that's not possible in vB.

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Who the fuck sends messages that fast imao
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Old November 17th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #14
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Who the fuck sends messages that fast imao
Sometimes posts like "Thanks", "Ok", etc.

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Old November 17th, 2017, 08:30 PM   #15
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Sometimes posts like "Thanks", "Ok", etc.
Ok. But how good is the meth youíre smoking?
If youíre not on dope Iím sure you can wait half a minute without it fucking your day up too much.

I canít fathom sending 2 pmís in 30 seconds unless youíre tweaking hard on good shit. Let me know the meth youíre high on
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Old November 17th, 2017, 08:31 PM   #16
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I feel like saying that this is a public forum. And the dialog between members are just that, public. This is about a community, open, supportive, helping etc. so if youíre that up on getting and sending pmís Then youíre probably missing a shit ton in th community

Aside from that, if sending pmís Like ďokĒ ďthanksĒ or that kinda shit, itís not gonna make a pisser of a difference either way if posted now or a minute from now

And Iím pretty sure that although mods and admin are clearly seeing this thread, itís probably not going to change much. Not that their opposed to change, seems like itís just not a realistic thing to expect.

So Iíd just accept what you got and appreciate it.
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Old November 17th, 2017, 10:37 PM   #17
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Ok. Just wondering, is it fine to share email address in PM? I have done that for months, I don't know if I am following the guidelines however.

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Old November 18th, 2017, 02:04 AM   #18
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Yes, you can share email addresses via PM. Per the FAQ, "Members are allowed to request basic contact information (i.e skype, email, kik, etc.) as long as they do not have intentions of abusing the system (see below)." If you have any other questions about that, feel free to shoot me a PM.

On that though, I think we've achieved what we wanted out of this thread, so I'm going to go ahead and lock it. OP (or anyone for that matter), if you wish to discuss this more, feel free to shoot me a PM.

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