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Old October 4th, 2017, 02:13 PM   #21
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So if there is no evidence that he was linked to them, why should the police be treating this incident as terrorism?
Because being linked to ISIS is not a legal requirement for terrorism charges. Like I said someone openly start shooting at people in a busy street killing 50 people and injuring hundred more, that kinda sounds like terrorism. If the shooter was Muslim or just had dark skin, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

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No, he didn't call it terrorism because there was no evidence that it was a terrorist attack (there still isn't, I believe).
Like there was no evidence it wasn't terrorism when a white supremacist ran over a protester with a car in Charlottesville. No he didn't call it terrorism in both cases because in his racist mind white people can be terrorist.

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Old October 4th, 2017, 02:19 PM   #22
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SO @mattsmith48 in your mind it must be that only white people can be terrorists. Iven better in yours commie worldview white people are all automatically terrorists and all muslims are saints. Did I get it right
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Old October 4th, 2017, 02:33 PM   #23
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Like I said someone openly start shooting at people in a busy street killing 50 people and injuring hundred more, that kinda sounds like terrorism.
You clearly don't know the definition of terrorism, so I'll leave some here for you.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism
ter·ror·ism (tĕr′ə-rĭz′əm)
n.
The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/act+of+terrorism
Noun 1. act of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in natureact of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

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If the shooter was Muslim or just had dark skin, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
True, not our fault most of terrorist attacks are committed by them.

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Like there was no evidence it wasn't terrorism when a white supremacist ran over a protester with a car in Charlottesville. No he didn't call it terrorism in both cases because in his racist mind white people can be terrorist.
How do you know what's going on in his mind though? Forget about other cases, I might agree with you that the Charlottesville incident was a terrorist attack because we have EVIDENCE. We don't have evidence (yet) on this case.


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Old October 5th, 2017, 02:47 PM   #24
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You clearly don't know the definition of terrorism, so I'll leave some here for you.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism
ter·ror·ism (tĕr′ə-rĭz′əm)
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The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/act+of+terrorism
Noun 1. act of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in natureact of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear


True, not our fault most of terrorist attacks are committed by them.


How do you know what's going on in his mind though? Forget about other cases, I might agree with you that the Charlottesville incident was a terrorist attack because we have EVIDENCE. We don't have evidence (yet) on this case.
Everyone has their own definition of terrorism and you could make a case for every mass killing from the US bombing wedding in the Middle East to a crazy person shooting kids in a high school.

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Everyone has their own definition of terrorism and you could make a case for every mass killing from the US bombing wedding in the Middle East to a crazy person shooting kids in a high school.
No, there's only one definition of terrorism, and that definition includes that the perpetrator has to have some sort of ideological motive behind the attack. Until the police finds out the motivations of the shooter, we can't call this incident an act of terror nor the perpetrator a terrorist. Period.


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Old October 6th, 2017, 09:46 AM   #26
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No, there's only one definition of terrorism, and that definition includes that the perpetrator has to have some sort of ideological motive behind the attack. Until the police finds out the motivations of the shooter, we can't call this incident an act of terror nor the perpetrator a terrorist. Period.
Wrong, they are multiple definition and everyone have their own way to define it, but the important definition is not from the online dictionary, but as it is legally define where the terrorist attack happen. In this case Nevada

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1.  “Act of terrorism” means any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to:

(a) Cause great bodily harm or death to the general population; or

(b) Cause substantial destruction, contamination or impairment of:

(1) Any building or infrastructure, communications, transportation, utilities or services; or

(2) Any natural resource or the environment.
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-...#NRS202Sec4415

So under the Nevada law this was terrorism, but also the Republican party's war on the environment, it's not linked to anything here but funny to point it out.

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SO @mattsmith48 in your mind it must be that only white people can be terrorists. Iven better in yours commie worldview white people are all automatically terrorists and all muslims are saints. Did I get it right
You know I'm white right?

To me any mass murder or attempt can be terrorism no matter who does it.

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Old November 2nd, 2017, 04:01 AM   #27
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Terrorism is violence with an agenda, be it religious, political, racial, what have you.

This is a tragedy, but not terrorism. (Unless some discoveries are made)

When you call things like this "terrorism", it really just waters-down it's meaning.

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