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Old September 26th, 2017, 01:01 AM   #101
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The firing of James Comey I really can't defend but I'm not sold on the Russia story. I could be complete wrong but I think it's liberals trying to find a reason they lost. No one on Russian government has admited to this "crime" only internet hackers which are most likely to be trolls. No one on the Trump administration has admited to Russian connections. Trump jr did have contact with a Russian lawyer ( Not any one in the government). His father was agiant this and he did tjos wothou his fathers aproval.
Russia was behind the hackings in order to influence the election, we know they did it both in France and the US. I don't why they would admit they did it, it would be like the Vatican admitting they are protecting pedophiles. As for Trump we still have no evidence that he personally did anything illegal, yes he knows more people who meet with Russians than the World Anti-Doping Agency, yes he did some suspicious things like inviting Russians spies to the White House hours after firing Comey or his secret meeting with Putin at the G20, but there is no evidence, yet, that he was personally involved. I don't think Centrists also known as Democrats are using the whole Russia thing as an excuse, but more as a diversion from what was at least part of the problem of why people choose the mentally unstable pussy grabber over the conservative woman with a private Email server.

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Old September 26th, 2017, 11:41 AM   #102
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Russia was behind the hackings in order to influence the election, we know they did it both in France and the US. I don't why they would admit they did it, it would be like the Vatican admitting they are protecting pedophiles. As for Trump we still have no evidence that he personally did anything illegal, yes he knows more people who meet with Russians than the World Anti-Doping Agency, yes he did some suspicious things like inviting Russians spies to the White House hours after firing Comey or his secret meeting with Putin at the G20, but there is no evidence, yet, that he was personally involved. I don't think Centrists also known as Democrats are using the whole Russia thing as an excuse, but more as a diversion from what was at least part of the problem of why people choose the mentally unstable pussy grabber over the conservative woman with a private Email server.
Your basing everything of conspiracy theroys. Meetings that's there's me evidence for and no proof. If there's no evidence for it, it deosnt existice. You are a atheist so you would be familiar with that logic. People chose Trump because he was the best candidate on the ballot not the best one in America. Hillary is a woman with a huge kill list and many horrible things under here belt. If Hillary we would be at war with Korea and China by now. You can't base beliefs and things that have no founding or fact behind them.
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Old September 26th, 2017, 12:15 PM   #103
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Looking in from across the pond, it seems to be that the big problem with Trump is that he does too much talking, not enough thinking and not enough listening. It seems to me, in any situation, he has to be seen to have the solution and will say whatever he thinks those assembled will want to hear regardless or whether it is either possible or sensible and also regardless of whether it stands in complete contradiction of something he has previously said.

The fact he does not remember what has previously said isn't an indicator of dementia. None of us can remember everything we have previously said but if we stick to established fact and a coherent set of beliefs and policy then what we say will tend to have a decent level of consistency. If, on the other hand, we are blowing in the wind then all bets are off.
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Old September 26th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #104
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Your basing everything of conspiracy theroys. Meetings that's there's me evidence for and no proof. If there's no evidence for it, it deosnt existice. You are a atheist so you would be familiar with that logic. People chose Trump because he was the best candidate on the ballot not the best one in America. Hillary is a woman with a huge kill list and many horrible things under here belt. If Hillary we would be at war with Korea and China by now. You can't base beliefs and things that have no founding or fact behind them.
Which meeting are you referring to?

I don't want to turn this into a Clinton vs Trump debate, I think if she was president it would be more or less of a continuation of what Obama was doing maybe with more of a right leaning approach. I don't know why she would had started a war with China. As for North Korea she wouldn't be having a dick measuring contest with Kim Jong-Un because she as enough experience that she would know how to deal with it in a diplomatic way.

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The fact he does not remember what has previously said isn't an indicator of dementia. None of us can remember everything we have previously said but if we stick to established fact and a coherent set of beliefs and policy then what we say will tend to have a decent level of consistency. If, on the other hand, we are blowing in the wind then all bets are off.
He remembers it, he just doesn't want to admit he was wrong.

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Old September 26th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #105
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He remembers it, he just doesn't want to admit he was wrong.
Okay so since, according to you, he not only has the right mind to remember something but then play it off that he didn't, he obviously doesn't have the mental illness of dementia. Those are two things alone go against literally more than half your list of symptoms that he has.

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Old September 26th, 2017, 06:51 PM   #106
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[QUOTE=mattsmith48;3575834]Which meeting are you referring to?

I don't want to turn this into a Clinton vs Trump debate, I think if she was president it would be more or less of a continuation of what Obama was doing maybe with more of a right leaning approach. I don't know why she would had started a war with China. As for North Korea she wouldn't be having a dick measuring contest with Kim Jong-Un because she as enough experience that she would know how to deal with it in a diplomatic way.

The g20 summit your were talking about in the last post. You said Trump met with putin. There's no evidence and nothing yo be gained. I'll stop with Hillary but all I have yo day I that's there's alot of money to be made with war for Hillary.
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Old September 27th, 2017, 08:11 PM   #107
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Okay so since, according to you, he not only has the right mind to remember something but then play it off that he didn't, he obviously doesn't have the mental illness of dementia. Those are two things alone go against literally more than half your list of symptoms that he has.
He's not playing it, he just can't admit he was wrong on something.

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Old November 20th, 2017, 01:47 AM   #108
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i read this on the internet the other day (may not be exact)

always deny
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always double down
always turn the tables on the victim, so they appear to be the liar.

its all about winning, not how you win.
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Old November 20th, 2017, 02:49 AM   #109
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i read this on the internet the other day (may not be exact)

always deny
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its all about winning, not how you win.
It certainly explains the philosophy and honor code a lot of high profile business people use as well as in politics when scandal breaks. Roy Moore (republican Alabama Judge running for senate seat) also fits the bill here too as does Mr. Weinstein.

It also matches the darkside of an innocent until proven guilty court system...the design of it favors those who commit crimes and have enough monetary power and connections to cover it up.

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But I hope you don't buy into the logic behind "perception is everything" it's a lie and it can hold up for a long time, but eventually it crumbles.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 06:46 AM   #110
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No, he shouldn't be impeached. For doing the role of a bloodletter that the US presidency has become, he is good. Blood will be spilled in the Middle East, Africa and other continents and countries with hard to pronounce names and globally there would be a status quo. Just to clarify, the same would be with Hillary, except with a few differences on the internal level.

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Old November 21st, 2017, 04:11 PM   #111
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No, he shouldn't be impeached. For doing the role of a bloodletter that the US presidency has become, he is good. Blood will be spilled in the Middle East, Africa and other continents and countries with hard to pronounce names and globally there would be a status quo. Just to clarify, the same would be with Hillary, except with a few differences on the internal level.
Why do you always have to bring up Hillary Clinton? Is it suppose to be justifying what Trump is doing? Since she would have done worst it makes what Trump is doing less bad? You bring her up more than the people who actually supported her.

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Old November 22nd, 2017, 05:49 PM   #112
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Why do you always have to bring up Hillary Clinton? Is it suppose to be justifying what Trump is doing? Since she would have done worst it makes what Trump is doing less bad? You bring her up more than the people who actually supported her.
No, I am generally saying that the White House has become a blood court no matter who is in it. It's just a thing now since Reagan. The presidency caused so much scandals and suffering since the eighties that many career politicians and upstarts like Trump and Sanders should be tried for war crimes or crimes against humanity.

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No he should not. He has his flaws, but he also has a lot going for him which makes him very qualified to be President.




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Old November 22nd, 2017, 07:11 PM   #114
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No, I am generally saying that the White House has become a blood court no matter who is in it. It's just a thing now since Reagan. The presidency caused so much scandals and suffering since the eighties that many career politicians and upstarts like Trump and Sanders should be tried for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
When you look at what they did to the last president who didn't do anything like this can you really blame them? With the exception of Obama and Trump all the the presidents since Regan have started endless wars out of fear they would portrayed as weak if they didn't, Obama was more a case of corruption and for Trump is just too easy to manipulate.

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No, I am generally saying that the White House has become a blood court no matter who is in it. It's just a thing now since Reagan. The presidency caused so much scandals and suffering since the eighties that many career politicians and upstarts like Trump and Sanders should be tried for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
Wut, when did poor Bernie get pulled into this? Say what you will of his politics but none of his policies have shown any contempt for anyone (except maybe the rich but even then there are no 'crimes against humanity' in those proposals).
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When you look at what they did to the last president who didn't do anything like this can you really blame them? With the exception of Obama and Trump all the the presidents since Regan have started endless wars out of fear they would portrayed as weak if they didn't, Obama was more a case of corruption and for Trump is just too easy to manipulate.
Obama used the wars he inherited for maximum profit. You can say Bush pioneered drone strikes and Obama industrialized them


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Wut, when did poor Bernie get pulled into this? Say what you will of his politics but none of his policies have shown any contempt for anyone (except maybe the rich but even then there are no 'crimes against humanity' in those proposals).
He supported the bombing of Yugoslavia, several of his cabinet members at that time resigned. Kosovo is now in a situation like Iraq before ISIS, except it is easier to control because it is smaller in both size and population. Violence still occurs. Some have called it the "Balkan Iraq"

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YES YES YES. I do so this with uneducation but with everything that ive seen. He got to go.

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can we impeach anyone who supports trump on this website?
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Old November 29th, 2017, 10:46 PM   #119
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You must be very unfamiliar with the homophic agenda of Mr. Pence then.
All he ever did was try to protect Christians from militant LGBTQWTF people. Frankly, I think Pence would be an awesome president.
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All he ever did was try to protect Christians from militant LGBTQWTF people. Frankly, I think Pence would be an awesome president.
Desoite his Bible-thumping, I think Pence would be a far better president that Trump because he is serious and has experience.

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