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Old August 1st, 2017, 12:32 AM   #1
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Im not sure why but a lot of what is posted in the Puberty forums has nothing to do with puberty. Circumcision, family nudity, open showering, and birth control are other common topics. But for some reason whenever i post something about these topics they get sent to the archives. Are the admins only doing this to me? I cant be the only one that could complain about this.


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If you are ever not sure why your post was locked, it's better to private message either the moderator who locked it or a senior member of staff.



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I was told because it's not puberty related. And frankly, I'm not curious about why. It's not right and I want this to stop.


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I was told because it's not puberty related. And frankly, I'm not curious about why. It's not right and I want this to stop.
The staff are the ones who decide what is and is not going to be allowed on the forums, especially in the puberty forums. You aren't being singled out, and you aren't the only one who's threads are and will be locked. It's very easy for things to get inappropriate and out of hand in puberty threads, which is why we do not allow off topic or non-puberty related threads to continue.

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The staff are the ones who decide what is and is not going to be allowed on the forums, especially in the puberty forums. You aren't being singled out, and you aren't the only one who's threads are and will be locked. It's very easy for things to get inappropriate and out of hand in puberty threads, which is why we do not allow off topic or non-puberty related threads to continue.
The most recent example was about girls opinion on male circumcision. That would not have gotten "out of control." Don't defend the staff. The staff for whatever reason are abusing there power. This isn't for any type of protection or to avoid some situation.


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The most recent example was about girls opinion on male circumcision. That would not have gotten "out of control." Don't defend the staff. The staff for whatever reason are abusing there power. This isn't for any type of protection or to avoid some situation.
Mars is a staff member, as am I, who actually locked the thread that you're talking about. Asking girls whether they want their baby boys circumcised isn't really related to puberty/development. It doesn't have to become "out of control" for it to be locked, if it's not puberty related, or not appropriate, it gets locked straight away. Talking about this specific thread here isn't really the right place, so if you wish to continue this conversation feel free to PM me. As I have said previously, if you disagree with a moderator's decision just PM them or a senior member of staff.



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Mars is a staff member, as am I, who actually locked the thread that you're talking about. Asking girls whether they want their baby boys circumcised isn't really related to puberty/development. It doesn't have to become "out of control" for it to be locked, if it's not puberty related, or not appropriate, it gets locked straight away. Talking about this specific thread here isn't really the right place, so if you wish to continue this conversation feel free to PM me. As I have said previously, if you disagree with a moderator's decision just PM them or a senior member of staff.
I'm guessing that you didn't bother to read this entire post. Please mark which of the following you consider to be puberty related. All of the following are very common topics in the puberty forums.

[ ] Open showering
[ ] Circumcision
[ ] Family Nudity
[ ] Jerk Circles
[ ] Tan lines (there's one about that right now)
[ ] "Experimenting"
[ ] Colour of penis or nipples

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I'm guessing that you didn't bother to read this entire post. Please mark which of the following you consider to be puberty related. All of the following are very common topics in the puberty forums.

[ ] Open showering
[ ] Circumcision
[ ] Family Nudity
[ ] Jerk Circles
[ ] Tan lines (there's one about that right now)
[ ] "Experimenting"
[ ] Colour of penis or nipples

If even one staff member responds I will be shocked
Giving me a list of topics isn't the best way to solve this - something can be considered under one category, but depending on how far they go into it depends on whether or not it is appropriate.

As an example, let's say if someone asks "is it normal to experiment" or something similar that's fine, but if they go into "how do i get my friend to experiment with me" isn't appropriate.

Again, circumcision - if someone is deciding on the pros/cons of being circumcised, that's fine, but starting to ask girl's opinions on it, or asking about future babies isn't really development related.

The majority of what you've mentioned (showering, nudity, circle jerks, experimenting) could, depending on the way the thread goes or the original poster asks their question, could lead to storytelling which again isn't appropriate.

If you see something in the puberty forums, or indeed anywhere on the site, we really appreciate that you report it rather than posting like this. There's only so many moderators, and lots more people and lots more posts to go through and occasionally we do miss some things - so we really appreciate your help.



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The staff for whatever reason are abusing there power.
don't be a whiner. so your post got archived, get over it. don't blame the mods, maybe your posts are creepy. if your need to know the opinions of 13-year-old girls on mutilated dongles is that dire, there are other forums for teens that are much more tolerant of creepy posts.
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don't be a whiner. so your post got archived, get over it. don't blame the mods, maybe your posts are creepy. if your need to know the opinions of 13-year-old girls on mutilated dongles is that dire, there are other forums for teens that are much more tolerant of creepy posts.
My posts are not, have not and never will be creepy. You want to talk abuse of power. Just because you're probably a staff member you have likely gotten away with implying that I'm some kind of pervert. And I'm very offended.

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Giving me a list of topics isn't the best way to solve this - something can be considered under one category, but depending on how far they go into it depends on whether or not it is appropriate.

As an example, let's say if someone asks "is it normal to experiment" or something similar that's fine, but if they go into "how do i get my friend to experiment with me" isn't appropriate.

Again, circumcision - if someone is deciding on the pros/cons of being circumcised, that's fine, but starting to ask girl's opinions on it, or asking about future babies isn't really development related.

The majority of what you've mentioned (showering, nudity, circle jerks, experimenting) could, depending on the way the thread goes or the original poster asks their question, could lead to storytelling which again isn't appropriate.

If you see something in the puberty forums, or indeed anywhere on the site, we really appreciate that you report it rather than posting like this. There's only so many moderators, and lots more people and lots more posts to go through and occasionally we do miss some things - so we really appreciate your help.
While I appreciate that you are taking the time and effort to explain your thinking I still fail to understand the connection between your example of a situation that could encourage pornographic story telling to something slightly on topic.

My complain, which still hasn't been explained to me, is that there is stuff far more off topic and of a very similar nature that never gets questioned. I'm willing to bet that 90% of circumcision questions are not puberty related. I'm not talking about the odd thing that is missed. My point is that if you took out all of the questions unrelated to puberty there would be less than half of the posts.

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I have yet to see any reason why circle jerks, nudist life-styles, cumshot distance, orgasm records, sexual-voyeurism, masturbation techniques, and other vulgar topics are allowed to exist. Here is an excerpt from the P101 rules thread:
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So, according to your own rules, P101 is a place for educational and informative discussion, not a place to discuss perverted and overly-sexualized materials. Why then, are threads talking about wanting to compare penis' with your friends and having group masturbation sessions not seen as perverted and immediately deleted? Can you tell me any educational value that comes from such discussions?

How about threads detailing how many orgasms you can have in a day, or how far you can shot cum? Mind telling the "educational and informative" value of that, and mind telling me how such discussion is not "perverted and over-sexualized"?

To be honest, the staff aren't abusing power here, they are simply being lax in their responsibilities. There have been many threads in the last couple months protesting this mediocre management of P101. I would imagine by now the staff would have realized that there is a real issue here, but I guess not. We'll keep this up though, until something changes.

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I heard somewhere VT is looking for mods. Why don't you apply for a mod position, and try and make the changes you feel are important to you instead of making it an issue here like this?
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I heard somewhere VT is looking for mods. Why don't you apply for a mod position, and try and make the changes you feel are important to you instead of making it an issue here like this?
I did apply.

But unless my application is ever accepted, this is how I can do the most good.
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I did apply.

But unless my application is ever accepted, this is how I can do the most good.
It wasn't necessarily directed at you personally

But I'll say I do see why some stuff is locked for the reasons mentioned. There are also some that are really redundant, and IMO just pane not needed. But that's me.

Seems like yeah there has been a lot more complaining about p101 recently to. And as I e done and suggested cause it's a place that really bothers some people is just block that section. That way you won't be exposed to what's bothering you.

Seems pretty straight forward to me anyways. Making a thread and complaint about shit that's not going to change idk will do any good, especially being so public about it.
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My posts are not, have not and never will be creepy. You want to talk abuse of power. Just because you're probably a staff member you have likely gotten away with implying that I'm some kind of pervert. And I'm very offended.
not a staff member, lol. in the 4 years i've been a member of this god-forsaken website, it's been very clear that the mods just want to do a good job. this isn't guantanamo, there isn't much "power" to be abused, it's just a stupid website that happens to be a pedo magnet.

if you don't wanna get offended, then don't say stupid shit. thinking that people's reactions to what you say are innately wrong, and claiming that they're just a bunch of big ol meanies who are nefariously sabotaging your poll on circumcision just because they can, is stupid. although i do agree that they have a funny way of picking their battles in p101, it's not malicious at all.
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Seems like yeah there has been a lot more complaining about p101 recently to. And as I e done and suggested cause it's a place that really bothers some people is just block that section. That way you won't be exposed to what's bothering you.
I do. However, you can't just ignore a problem and expect it to go away. These type of threads are just asking for perverts and pedophiles, and I want to prevent such, even if it doesn't affect me.
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Seems pretty straight forward to me anyways. Making a thread and complaint about shit that's not going to change idk will do any good, especially being so public about it.
I know I've already shot myself in the foot about this, I doubt my application will ever be accepted. Not implying anything here, but that is basically what they said about the civil rights protests of the 60's. How well did that work out for them?
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I do. However, you can't just ignore a problem and expect it to go away. These type of threads are just asking for perverts and pedophiles, and I want to prevent such, even if it doesn't affect me.

I know I've already shot myself in the foot about this, I doubt my application will ever be accepted. Not implying anything here, but that is basically what they said about the civil rights protests of the 60's. How well did that work out for them?
I'm not saying it'll go away by ignoring it. That doesn't work. But as members were limited about what we can do. If you see stuff you thinks inappropriate or boarderline, we're supposed to report it. Mods will address it. I personally know that works. Or at least most of the lime it does. The times it seems it doesn't I need to trust that there's good reason that I'm not privileged to know the reasons cause I'm not on staff. But I'll assume still good reasons.

To be fair to staff I don't think their jobs as easy as some may think. Yeah some stuff may seem obvious to me and you sometimes. But the reality is there's stuff that's said and done we'll never know about for privacy reasons. Thatsjust the way it it.

You can block forums and members. So if you do, you'll never see the posts and they don't contact you.
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My complain, which still hasn't been explained to me, is that there is stuff far more off topic and of a very similar nature that never gets questioned. I'm willing to bet that 90% of circumcision questions are not puberty related. I'm not talking about the odd thing that is missed. My point is that if you took out all of the questions unrelated to puberty there would be less than half of the posts.

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I'm pretty sure I've said this already. If you see something that you don't think is right, please report it. We do try our best to keep the puberty sections relatively clean. Those forums are what bring the most traffic to our site and so putting even harsher restrictions than what we have already will just draw the genuine people away.

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I have yet to see any reason why circle jerks, nudist life-styles, cumshot distance, orgasm records, sexual-voyeurism, masturbation techniques, and other vulgar topics are allowed to exist. Here is an excerpt from the P101 rules thread:

So, according to your own rules, P101 is a place for educational and informative discussion, not a place to discuss perverted and overly-sexualized materials. Why then, are threads talking about wanting to compare penis' with your friends and having group masturbation sessions not seen as perverted and immediately deleted? Can you tell me any educational value that comes from such discussions?

How about threads detailing how many orgasms you can have in a day, or how far you can shot cum? Mind telling the "educational and informative" value of that, and mind telling me how such discussion is not "perverted and over-sexualized"?

To be honest, the staff aren't abusing power here, they are simply being lax in their responsibilities. There have been many threads in the last couple months protesting this mediocre management of P101. I would imagine by now the staff would have realized that there is a real issue here, but I guess not. We'll keep this up though, until something changes.
Firstly, several of what you've mentioned, such as sexual storytelling, techniques, asking how to compare with your friends etc. are locked anyway. The borderline between appropriate and inappropriate can be very vague and unclear sometimes so what some people think is appropriate, others may not. After all, what happens most in the puberty forums is about whether people think they are "normal" and want to get questions off their minds.

Just to add, there are some things that we do delete, instead of lock, when they are wildly inappropriate.



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Firstly, several of what you've mentioned, such as sexual storytelling, techniques, asking how to compare with your friends etc. are locked anyway.
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The borderline between appropriate and inappropriate can be very vague and unclear sometimes so what some people think is appropriate, others may not. After all, what happens most in the puberty forums is about whether people think they are "normal" and want to get questions off their minds.
You ignored my question. The P101 rules clearly state that P101 is for "Educational and informative" discussion, not talking about whether or not jacking off near a picture of a goat is "normal." Defined by your own rules, it is a place to ask questions you may of had in sex-ed class, but didn't get the chance to. Tell me how group masturbation falls under "sex-ed"? I have yet to see any reason why the examples I've posted are of any "educational and informative" benefit, and why they shouldn't be deleted under the "perverted and overly-sexualized" statement define in your rules.

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That's not asking how to get their friend to compare, just whether it is normal which is fine.
None of those are overly specific - yeah if they started asking for storytelling about what happened when they experimented or whatever, but just asking who they did it with and nothing else isn't rulebreaking. I don't think that any of those linked that you posted are "overly-sexualised" or explicit.

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You ignored my question. The P101 rules clearly state that P101 is for "Educational and informative" discussion, not talking about whether or not jacking off near a picture of a goat is "normal." I have yet to see any reason why the examples I've posted are of any "educational and informative" benefit, and why they shouldn't be deleted under the "perverted and overly-sexualized" statement define in your rules.
Let's take this extract from the P101 rules (this is referring to boys):
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As long as they don't get overly specific or sexualised, it's fine.

As I've said previously, whilst yes our primary job is to lock these threads ourselves, but if we don't catch something, and the general users don't report it, these threads will keep on getting worse and nothing will get better.



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