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View Poll Results: How long should be given to read each book?
30 Days 7 46.67%
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60 Days 2 13.33%
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Old December 18th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #41
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I'd also imagine Government and Governance to include the natural sciences insofar as this relates to questions of public-policy. What's the thoughts on that? It narrows the field to what I'd hope would be more accessibly formatted material.
Can you expand on this a little more?

I'd imagine that my above criticism of the natural sciences would apply here as well; the subject being relevant to public policy doesn't make it any more accessible to the layperson.

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Old December 18th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #42
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I'd imagine that my above criticism of the natural sciences would apply here as well; the subject being relevant to public policy doesn't make it any more accessible to the layperson.
The aim would be to include the natural sciences as supplementaries. So one might read about the political realities of the climate change debate and then read the scientific reports that underline it.

It's in a similar fold to how I intend to introduce economics if it's on my mind when I get chosen. I intend the technical material to more supplement reading on the broader debate than be the focus. So here I'de choose a book on European Union trade politics - or NAFTA - or whatever - and then supplement that with the technical data. If I'm honest I'm not sure if the same scope is available with the natural sciences but I hope to still leave it open to people.

".... the result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed ... [H.A.]"
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Old December 18th, 2015, 11:56 PM   #43
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@Vlerchan.

Okay, I misunderstood you then. I'm in agreement with this, as I've posted earlier.

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Old December 20th, 2015, 02:51 PM   #44
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@Vlerchan

Is there anything we are waiting for?

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Old December 20th, 2015, 03:27 PM   #45
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@Judean Zealot:

I thought I'd give a bit for people to offer up suggestions. I'll probably make a thread and get it running tonight though if that doesn't start happening.

".... the result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed ... [H.A.]"
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I thought I'd give a bit for people to offer up suggestions. I'll probably make a thread and get it running tonight though if that doesn't start happening.
Sounds good!
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Old December 20th, 2015, 07:14 PM   #47
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I've gone and put the thread up there. Oakheart and Porpoise101 are up to choose the work first.

I added everyone that either commented they'd join in thread or voted (and never commented otherwise) to the pool.

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Old December 20th, 2015, 09:43 PM   #48
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I've gone and put the thread up there. Oakheart and Porpoise101 are up to choose the work first.

I added everyone that either commented they'd join in thread or voted (and never commented otherwise) to the pool.

So is this now the thread for it?
Sorry if I misunderstand
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Old December 20th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #49
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So is this now the thread for it?
Sorry if I misunderstand
Oops. Forgot the link:

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/sh...84#post3277784

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