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Old June 17th, 2006, 06:32 PM  
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Default Re: bann on public smoking

Originally Posted by *}Whisper{*

Heather Crowe, the long-time waitress who contracted lung cancer after decades of exposure to second-hand smoke, has died. She was 61.
Crowe, who never smoked, became widely known as the face of the nation's anti-smoking movement after sharing her personal story in television ads for Health Canada.

In the advertisements, she describes how she contracted cancer from second-hand smoke at the restaurant where she worked for some 40 years.
Denis Choiniere, director of regulations and compliance for Health Canada said Crowe helped to put a face on the grim numbers.

""She had a strong and influential impact for our second-hand smoke campaigns," Choiniere said, appearing on CTV Newsnet.
"She was the figure, the face for the statistics that we've been using -- about 1,000 people every year dying from exposure to second-hand smoke in Canada," he said.

Crowe was diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer in 2002, and she fought the disease with chemotherapy, radiation and steroids before it went into remission.

But she learned last August that she was losing her battle with the disease.
Crowe was the first person to win a claim filed with the Ontario Workers Safety and Insurance Board for full compensation for lung cancer caused by occupational exposure to cigarette smoke.

"If I'd lost my hand at work they'd have paid me,'' she once said of the claim. "So if they're going to take chunks out of my lungs, why wouldn't I be entitled (to benefits)?''

Crowe's death comes about one week before the Smoke Free Ontario Act goes into effect. The provincial legislature paves the way for a blanket ban on smoking in all indoor public and workplaces to start in June 2006.
By June 2008, the legislation demands retailers remove their so-called cigarette 'power walls' and replace them with a new display that puts them out of sight from minors.

Jim Watson, the Liberal MPP for Ottawa-West-Nepean and a frequent customer at the restaurant where Crowe worked, described her as the "matriarch of the anti-smoking movement.''

Crowe told him she wanted to live to see the anti-smoking legislation come into effect, Watson told The Canadian Press on Sunday.
"It's very sad that she's not going to be here to see it, but she should be very happy that because of her influence, Ontarians will be able to breathe easier as a result of the legislation on May 31," said Watson.
Listen, I feel sorry for the poor lady and her family but, like Kolte said, she was 61! That's below average, I'll give you that, but it's not like she was in her 20s or anything. The whole second-hand smoke issue is a load of worthless propaganda bundled with tons of anecdotal evidence, which in short is complete bullshit. That would be like saying "my grandad lived to 82 died of non smoking related causes and he smoked all his life" which is true, he died of prostate cancer, the one kind of cancer that has been proven completely unconnected to smoking. But does this suggest that smoking isn't dangerous? Hell no!

There is hardly any evidence that second-hand smoke causes cancer and I won't believe any of this junk until I see some solid proof. There is no cancer that is specific to smoking, it could have been caused by anything. Car exhaust, radon/aspestos (actually I doubt it was aspestos), who knows?

I remember in super size me some doctor whose name I don't remember brought up a very good point. People hastle smokers all the time because it's filthy and dangerous and whatever. Why don't you go up to fat people and tell them the same thing? You wouldn't would you? Obesity, for example, is equally, if not more dangerous than smoking.

As for public smoking nobody is forcing you to drink at a pub or eat at a resteraunt. If you don't like the smoke there then call it a bad resteraunt and don't go there. And whats so bad about some smell anyway? Is an odour going to kill you? No.

And why is it disgusting? Smoke comes from fire and tobacco is a naturally occurring substance, just like trees. As for the chemicals, tell me this: have you ever eaten at McDonalds? Have you every drunk a Coke or a Gatorade? Have you ever eaten chocolate? They have just as many chemicals in them as cigarettes.

Of course, I agree to drawing the line at some point. For example, I don't think that they should let people light up on the bus or on the tube or even the cinema somewhere, people need those places to go to work or have fun. There are no alternatives. And once they're at work they shouldn't be allowed to smoke either (unless they have their own office or somewhere cut off) because people have to go to work to make a living and to buy food and water. But how many people can honestly say that they have to go through the pub to get to work? And the barstaff? I can't speak for you blokes in the USA but here in the UK 90% of barstaff said they don't mind smoke at all.

It's not fair that anybody can tell me I can't light a fag in a public place. For one thing, if it's out in the open, what's going to happen? Even if by some freak second-hand smoke is dangerous then why can't I smoke in the park? Because cigarettes make me smell bad? Why don't you go and tell joggers that they don't have the right to sweat? After all they smell too.

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