Originally Posted by ryan29
koler what is your issue? it seems as if you are contradicting yourself
"Iâ€™m not a Christian because I believe you should have equal rights. You are not subservient to me. I am no better then anybody else!" it seems to me as if you think you are better than everyone else
also when was the last time YOU yourself went to church?
i haven't been since xmas and regulary since i was 16 that is a choice i made as i was tired of following my parents (forcing ppl not v christiany? but member the decalogue) but christians believe in equal rights as well. the bible i believe to be fallable so there fore i see that your arguement holds no grounds. if you haven't noticed the world has changed since it was written.
i dont no what your experiences are like to make you with such hatred for christians but i admit that ppl have faults but dont just diss ppls values and bliefs just because of their religion.
you seem to speak as if god is fictional with no proof that he isn't
a atheist once asked a christian "why do you believe in god? you cant see, touch or hear him so why do you think he's there?" the christian replied "can you see air? can you touch it or hear it? no but you know it's there,"
although im not a christian myself (praying for a mountain bike doesn't give you results till your 14, JOKE!) i believe in many key principles of the decalogue and the golden rule as they are used in modern day like in the welfare state and laws
i do believe in god but i think you dont have to follow christian teachings to get into heaven, just listen to your concisence and follow what it says and if you are truly sorry for any transgressions i think god will forgive you. god gave us all the fredom of choice and i think that choice is what is important.
if you or anyone else chooses to be bi or gay or whateva i think god accept that descision
i used to think when i was young (so navie) that weneva it rained god was crying because someone had sinned, to be honest i still hav that feeling, and tht fing is wht i believe
finally ranting finished case of abortion begun
as ive said its down to your own moral conscience, you do have to consider that the child is ill and may die, but can the mother live with the guilt, it can be the case that she can and she can get on with her life as she knows she is emotionally immature enough, but what if she cant? she could hav the baby or adopt it? do you get CBBC in america? cos if you do watch tracy beaker, that is about an adoption home "a dumping ground" and it shows that life isnt just as bleak as what you make out for the kids, koler
back to the ill child arguement, yes its ill and can die and it may be better for it to die without even feeling fresh air, but with so many ppl are fighters, someone who was terminally ill was diagnosed to die at the age of 15, that same person live till the age of 34 and within that life he started up a charity and raised money for it. take chris reeve as example, when he broke his back someppl thought it would be best to let him die, but no he fought and he got better somewhat before he died but he raised money to help others that is the main thing.
therefore my answer to the question
"Abortion, yes or no"
is i think that its down to the mothers and fathers moral conscience and not down to us as individuals though i myself would never want to be responsible of the death of a baby
My dad was Jewish and my mother was Mormon. I grew up with my dad and mom fighting over who I should believe in. When they got divorced in 2000, I was forced to stay with my mother, and she had by that time converted to non denominational Christianity. I was about 10 at that point, and very confused about Jesus and God and all that Jazz. I went to some from of non denominational church until about 8th grade. When I started going to many different churches. I went to the Local Jewish Temple for a while, I went to the Mormon church for a bit, The Catholic church, the Methodist, Lutheran, Trinitarian and ever were I went I saw the same thing. Everybody was fake. Everybody said it at church and did the opposite outside of church. In December of my 9th grade, I decided to take a while to study religion and find out for myself what I believed. I studied the Bible extensively, as well as the book of Mormon, and the Apocalyptic texts left out of the bible. Such as the Book of Mary and Enoch. I delved into Muslim studying the Koran and Torah even more, Buddhism and Hinduism and Eastern Philosophy came next and for about a year I searched and studied. In the summer of last year, a friend very close to me took his life. I was struck with grief, and I went to his funeral, and there people were praying very historically because they believed since he committed suicide he would go to hell. Thatâ€™s were religion crossed the line. I was to believe that his nice, wonderful, kind, turn the other cheek kind of guy, was going to hell because he.....what, killed himself? That because he was confused, and lost and hurting, that he was destined to face an eternity of fire. NO, I refuse to believe that his death marked his faith. I wasnâ€™t angry at god, realized I truthfully didnâ€™t believe in god. Its not that Iâ€™ve turned my back on him, its that heâ€™s not there to me. I donâ€™t believe in him, at all. When you die, its the end of your suffering. You life comes to a halt, and you dissipate into the world. Threw my studies I because very acquainted with the religious text of the religious world. So Iâ€™m keen on how to argue against Christians, and Muslims, and anyone who is wasting there life with a fictional â€œgodâ€.
I think that, no abortion should take place after the first trimester is finished. Thatâ€™s stage 23 approximately 56 - 57 post ovular days. If your aborting it after that, its got a brain, a heart, eyes, taste buds, teeth, gentiles, nervous system. It has all of the 5 of the six senses after the 23 stage. So no abortion after that. I believe that right now, we have the right, and that the Christian majority will never strip us of it, like you have stripped us of so many other rights.
Politics and conservatives taking things to literally
By the bible they all live They are the Christian majority
they take eye for an eye until no one can see
and then wonder blindness repeating old history
It's like a youngling on a balance beam looking for her center
slowly loosing consciousness removed from life like a splinter
the Ideas so old and so completely useless
are followed by zombies while the leader sits and muses
forcing their own ideals down indigent throats
the people they just follow like mindless sheep and goats
and those who love their residence and try to make is better
are considers horrid liberal swine and are ended with one letter
this battle over power is making me feel sickened
I wish the world would get along and this fever just end
And to answer your question: â€œwhen was the last time you went to church?â€
I went to church last in September of 2005 with my dad because I didnâ€™t have the heart to tell him no. Since he himself converted to Christianity around 2002, we went to a non denominational church down the street from the upholstery shop he was living in.