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Old December 30th, 2014, 01:13 PM  
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Default Re: Religion

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
And how does this relate to the argument in question?
People use the argument as proof that god exists.

I'm posing the counter that it's only proof that god might exist.

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
Abiogenesis did not create the universe, if you think it did, you don't know what the words mean.
The argument proposes that there must be at least one non-contingent being if contingent beings are to exist.
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It is impossible for everything in the universe to be contingent, for then there would be a time when nothing existed, and so nothing would exist now, since there would be nothing to bring anything into existence, which is clearly false.
But abiogenisis rejects this notion.

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
Why not?
You are the one making the argument.

It's up to you to demonstrate why an ultimate maxim existing is a good assumption.

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
Where is the refutation?
There doesn't need to be a guide. Natural selection is built into the Evolutionary process.

".... the result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed ... [H.A.]"
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