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Old December 30th, 2014, 09:41 AM  
Vlerchan
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Default Re: Religion

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
What exactly do you mean?
There's no need for a set (the universe) to possess all the qualities that its items (all events) possess.

Even if we presume it does this at best concludes that it's possible for a god to exist.

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
What exactly do you mean?
Please see above.

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Biology is not able to explain abiogenesis
It's working on it. Point is the fact that other possible drivers exist make it fallacious to conclude god.

The non-beings became beings through abiogenisis is the point I was making.

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Originally Posted by Arkansasguy
Then read the argument.
I did. I see no reason to presume god is some ultimate maxim.

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Evolution doesn't refute the need for a creator.
[summary:]

All natural bodies in the world act towards ends.
These objects are in themselves unintelligent.
Acting towards an end is a characteristic of intelligence.
Therefore, there exists an intelligent being that guides all natural bodies towards their ends.
We call this being God.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinque_viae#TheFiveWays
It refutes this.

".... the result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed ... [H.A.]"
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