Originally Posted by Break the Cage
hardcore derives from punk, its influenced by all the old punk bands and not by metal as most people think.
Well that's just obvious, metalcore is however a sub-genre of hardcore that has some elements of metal, mainly a back 4/4 with sub heavy cords.
But that's besides the point. I hate the people who refer to the oldest punk bands to found Hardcore, as Hardcore.
Minor Threat will NEVER be hardcore, technically 1st generation, but still. PUNK.