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    Dear Maggie

    thanks robert. :)
    Posted September 28th, 2012 at 03:18 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
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    What I think about VT...

    Good points guys. Thanks!
    Posted November 20th, 2011 at 04:52 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
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    What I think about VT...

    I have to agree with Kathy, it all has to do with when and where you post, yes, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, freedom of speech. I think it might also behoove you to not let the little things bite you in the arse, people just enjoy ticking you off because they know it gets you going.

    I am not saying that you should not fight back I am use saying that WE ALL, should think about what we are about to type and think how it will affect the other members and how it effect yourself....
    Posted November 17th, 2011 at 12:07 AM by Dimitri Dimitri is offline
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    What I think about VT...

    I think it depends where you post. I very rarely enter debates, most of my rep is from posts i've made in the psych ward.

    However I do agree that it's unfair people repping and neg repping for your opinions. If they think you have a good arguement then go ahead, but just because they agree or disagree with you is not really fair...
    Posted November 13th, 2011 at 06:52 PM by Fiction Fiction is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    Matrix is one whole opinion. Why let one bad opinion ruin your thoughts on something? That's just silly. Criticism is everywhere, you can't avoid it. You're letting one bad thing ruin the positive.
    Posted October 29th, 2011 at 02:01 PM by Ambrosia Ambrosia is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    6 things were said before I said i'd take it down. one was actually agreeing. Matrix said something was wrong with every step. Well, if something is wrong with everyone... what's the point?
    Posted October 20th, 2011 at 09:12 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    No, leave it up, it can help a lot of new people, like I said before.

    I feel like your ignoring our positive things.
    Posted October 20th, 2011 at 06:30 PM by Ambrosia Ambrosia is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    I'll just delete it. Like everyone is wrong, i guess.
    Posted October 20th, 2011 at 04:09 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    It's nice, Eric man. this is what VT is for. good job
    Posted October 20th, 2011 at 02:03 PM by Donkey Donkey is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    ....Hey man, we weren't being mean. It's constructive criticism. No one came here to tear you down by any means. What's the point of posting something if you don't want anyone to share their opinions on it? The majority of us just wanted to help out! Like, if you wanted to post another one. Rewritten or something.

    Here, I'll quote myself for the sake of you knowing we weren't being mean.

    Quote:
    Good work. Nice job. Awesome. *gives a star*
    Posted October 20th, 2011 at 07:54 AM by Ambrosia Ambrosia is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    K, im done. thanks for the criticism. I mean, if it doesn't help you, sorry. If it does, then OKAY COOL! just leave alone now, damn...
    Posted October 19th, 2011 at 09:27 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    Quote:
    Step one: Throw away all things that you harm yourself with.
    As many others have said, this won't work.

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    Step three: Separate from everything that is triggering you if you can.
    So you're suggesting that people "simply" move out and go someplace else. Ah, I see. Very well.
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    Step four: I you harmed anyone else, make amends.
    What do you mean with that?

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    Step five: After long whiles of meditation, find your happy place, that is a haven in your mind. This can help you when you are feeling the need to cut or self harm.
    Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everyone.

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    Step six: Find a new healthy SAFE hobby. IE: DO NOT PICK SOWING IF YOU ARE A CUTTER, AND DON'T START CAMPING IF YOU ARE A BURNER.
    Think about it. All hobbies have some kind of dangerous aspect to it.

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    Step seven: Have a realization that you are no longer a self harmer, but you can still become one way easier than you quit.
    That made no sense.

    Sorry kid, but there's just too many flaws in it.
    Posted October 19th, 2011 at 01:31 AM by TheMatrix TheMatrix is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    I agree with Jo, sadly.

    The thing is, perhaps people who are just starting to self-harm, and whom haven't been doing it for as long as a lot of us have (I.E, they aren't so...attached. Best I can say) can use this program a little bit easier then the rest. It is a good program, don't get me wrong. Self Harm can be compared to Alcoholism very very closely so, hey, why can't the same programs be used!? I've known plenty of people to use similar programs for similar things. Drugs, cigs, etc.

    Dare I ask...Why can't burners go camping? Are we going to throw ourselves into the campfire out of pure need? And sewing...Are we going to sew ourselves into nice little knit-socks? I say this jokingly because that's the image it gave me when I read that!!! But honestly, I'm not sure how many people might find those things triggering. If we were to avoid every little thing that had a sharp edge, or every thing that resembled a flame, we would have to lock ourselves into padded rooms for eternity.

    I like this, though. It's great that you want to help. Good work, Nice job, Awesome, *gives a star*
    Posted October 17th, 2011 at 10:47 PM by Ambrosia Ambrosia is offline
    Updated October 20th, 2011 at 07:55 AM by Lexi The Rebel
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    Hey, I personally agree with Bogumil's steps because I have delt with serious self-harmers before to the point of where I have been able to help them stop. He was also right to put the 'throw away' step first because while quitting cold turkey is the hardest way to do it it is also the most effective in the long run from my experience.

    Also it is true that a cutter won't see it as black and white of a plan like StoppingTime said which is why often they can't manage to quit without the aid of another who knows how to deal with and read people.

    Some self-harmers you can be blunt with and others you need to be sensitive also you may have to switch between tactics. It all depends on the specific case but the biggest thing you can do to help a self-harmer is to be willing to listen to them and then talk to them when they are done saying what they have to say. The worst thing you can do to what I'll call the 'emo' type (no offence meant) is interupt them because then they go into the whole self-destruction "No one understands me" spiral.

    I would also like to say although my problem wasn't serious and lasted a short amount of time I do in fact have first hand experience.
    Posted October 17th, 2011 at 09:38 PM by AJay AJay is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    I have to agree here. You (myself as well) aren't first hand self-harmers. You don't really know what they are going through, and how they can't just follow a simple system like this. It is a good idea though, and for some, it may be able to work.
    Posted October 16th, 2011 at 08:32 PM by StoppingTime StoppingTime is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    I do understand where you're coming from. But you're in a different mindset than most self-harmers. Some people are certainly capable of doing the hardest first but most aren't. It's sort of hard to explain but it's a certain attachment. A lot of us get some comfort in having the tools around even if we don't use them. Getting rid of tools tends to be the last step when we know we're ready and can handle it. Not having the option tends to add more stress when you're overwhelmed and you can resort to worse methods.

    But hey, if people want to go about it that way, I commend them. Just realise a lot won't no matter how willing they may be.
    Posted October 16th, 2011 at 07:59 PM by Deleted User Deleted User is offline
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    I appreciate this, but I want you to know that actually, steps three is much like the AA steps... and I said separate from the things the things you CAN. And, I put "throw everything away" first, because it will prolly be the hardest. And take the most time, I put it there so that we can get the dirty hard work away easier.
    Posted October 16th, 2011 at 07:48 PM by Jupiter Jupiter is offline
    Updated October 16th, 2011 at 07:53 PM by Jupiter
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    Need Help To quit cutting?

    Okay. I see a few flaws with this. While I see that you want to help, you have to realise that if you've not had experience with self-harm, some of this may seem easier than it is.

    Throwing out your tools? That's like taking drugs from a junkie. Most junkies are weaned off the drug slowly. Throwing away tools is like going cold-turkey and while it works for some, it can also trigger a faster relapse in most.

    Steps three and six: while I see what you mean to do, you can't run from things all the time. The idea isn't to separate yourself from the issue but to find other ways to deal with the issue. For example, I cut because of my disorder. I can't exactly separate myself from that. External things should not be avoided because you have to face them eventually.

    The others are all good ideas but they're nothing no one hasn't heard before. But hey, if people want to try this, glad to hear you're trying to help. Go for it. Just figured I'd give you some of the facts, having been a self-harmer for nine years. It's an addiction for many or near that. Some of these steps are just unrealistic either in the order or in general.
    Posted October 16th, 2011 at 07:41 PM by Deleted User Deleted User is offline

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