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kolte
June 1st, 2008, 07:19 PM
Should Cigarettes be Illegal?
I have smoked cigarettes since I was a young boy. At eleven years old, my
brother and I sat in the back room at my Aunts house in Caddo Gap
Arkansas, and smoked some cigarettes we had stolen from her pack. I dont
think it was my brothers first time smoking, because he took bigger hits,
but I dont think he had been at it for long.
After that, I stole butts out of the ashtrays at home and didnt much exceed
simple scavengry (such a fine creation . . . scavengry) until fourteen. Once I
moved out of the house, just before my sixteenth birthday, I started smoking
much more, near a pack a day. For a time, I exceeded a pack a day, but
realizing how terrible my health was and could become, I abstained for a
week or so, before slowing climbing back to nearly the same rate as before.
My point is. I wish I had never started. I have come to the conclusion that
cigarettes should be illegal. Consider the obvious: Trans Fats, Asbestos,
lead paint; all are detrimental to your health. They will kill you or make you
ill in time. Tobacco is detrimental to your health. It contains many
carcinogens and will, after prolonged exposure, cause cancer. Why then is it
not illegal?
When a product is harmful, it has a warning label which reads (DONT
FUCKIN TOUCH IT!!). Cigarettes are inhaled, chewing tobacco stuffed in
the mouth. This isnt healthy, quite the opposite, really.
Not to mention the addiction. They say its harder to kick nicotine
then it is to quit heroin. I CANT QUIT. Its quite awful to even try. I
need to be locked in a cage for a month, and even then, once Im out
. . . I might . . .
Maverick
June 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM
Cigarettes are definitely bad for your health but I don't think making it illegal is the answer. The drug war has failed miserably and I don't think this would be any better. This is (supposed to be) a free society and choices we make we have to live with. The government isn't going to make you more health conscious by making it illegal. It was illegal for you as a minor to smoke cigarettes but you still did and making them illegal won't eliminate them from being accessible.
kolte
June 1st, 2008, 07:29 PM
I don't actually think they should be illegal, its not the governments job to make us better people; we should be able to make our own choices. But given the way the government is run now, you would think they would be.
thePianoMan
June 1st, 2008, 07:35 PM
I do think that since weed is illegal (in the US), cigarettes should definitely be illegal. I think tobacco is worse than weed.
Shattered
June 1st, 2008, 07:37 PM
I think it should be illegal. There are illegal drugs that aren't nearly as bad as cigarettes.
Not only that, but i recently wrote a paper on secondhand smoke, which hurts so many other people. I post a few facts-
49,400 people die each year from second hand smoke. (They have never smoked a cigarette, but they died from other people smoking near them)
Just fifteen states out of 50, 30% of the whole country, have smoking banned in public places. That means that each year 35 states, or 70% of the U.S., have underweight babies, lung disease and thousands of people dying just from ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke).
Whenever you breathe in cigarette smoke, you’re breathing in 4,000 chemicals, 40 of them known carcinogens, substances that are proved to promote cancer. Nicotine is also in ETS, and nicotine increases heart rate and blood pressure.
ETS has caused 150,000-300,000 lung infections to children under the age of 18 months. It has increased the severity of asthma attacks in 200,000 to 1,000,000 people who have asthma.
I just copy-pasted this out of my written paper kind of randomly, so sorry if some don't make sense, i tried to make them work without the full story lol
[Edit: Forgot to mention- This data is for the US]
Silence
June 1st, 2008, 07:51 PM
If not illegal then very expensive to where Ben wouldn't buy them. Hehe.
Knowing him, he still would though!
Ggggrrrrr!!
Camazotz
June 1st, 2008, 08:28 PM
No, its up to the buyer to take full responsibility to be cautious about their health. But, there should be more restrictions on where and when you can smoke. I was reading in a magazine (Popular Science) that tobacco smoke decreases global warming because the smoke blocks the UV rays from warming up the Earth too much.
Shattered
June 1st, 2008, 08:29 PM
^^ Thats like saying its a buyers responsibility to not smoke cocaine, yet it was abused and it's now illegal. Smoking is over abused and its legal.
Popular science is full of crap if thats what it says.
0=
June 1st, 2008, 09:09 PM
They should be taxed far more heavily, problem solved. If you smoke cigarettes you're paying for your medical care and lack of productivity when they eventually cause you problems.
Celeritas
June 1st, 2008, 10:01 PM
Of course they should be illegal. All they do is kill you, and people go around everywhere smoking them and hurting everyone by their second-hand smoke. Cigarettes are the most stupid thing ever invented.
Uranus
June 1st, 2008, 10:05 PM
Umm I do not think they should be illegal HOWEVER I think that people should be barred from smoking in ALL public places (enclosed) and 10 feet from public doors throughout the whole country.
Vindication
June 1st, 2008, 10:56 PM
Cigarettes are proven to have ALMOST as bad of a health affect as marijuana. I can't cite that, sorry. But I do believe it is a person's choice to kill themselves or not. So, I dont think the government has a right to step in. Though with narcotics, they are a danger to the person using and those around them while the smoker only kills their own lungs. Second hand smoke should not be tolerated though. Its disgusting and worse than straight up smoking.
0=
June 1st, 2008, 11:45 PM
More like much worse, but that's a different topic.
No drug should be made entirely illegal. It's a waste of resources to fight it. If someone wants to do drugs they will. It should be illegal in public and heavily taxed, though. Advertising should also be illegal.
Vindication
June 1st, 2008, 11:54 PM
I agree that advertising should be illegal. Good point.
But when you said no drugs should be illegal, I highly disagree since hard drugslike pot crack, and injection drugs can not only harm the user, but people involved with them. While cigarettes mainly hurt the user and only hurt the other people if they are around.
I say it should be illegal in confined spaces and public places. I feel sick when I see a mother smoking with the windows up with her children in the car. It is messed up.
0=
June 2nd, 2008, 01:48 AM
Yes, but has "hard drugs" being illegal eliminated their usage or only obscured them and cost the justice system billions? There should be very heavy restrictions, but you can't stop people from doing drugs. It would be a wiser investment to better the society people live in rather than punish drug abusers. Happy people are less likely to resort to drugs.
serial-thrilla
June 2nd, 2008, 02:26 PM
I agree that advertising should be illegal. Good point.
But when you said no drugs should be illegal, I highly disagree since hard drugslike pot crack, and injection drugs can not only harm the user, but people involved with them. While cigarettes mainly hurt the user and only hurt the other people if they are around.
I say it should be illegal in confined spaces and public places. I feel sick when I see a mother smoking with the windows up with her children in the car. It is messed up. I believe ciggarettes should be taxed so heavily that the buyer will be contributing their money for their healthcare. Maybe lower the taxes for everyone else. Hard drugs like pot? are you actually serious? To even classify marijuana with drugs like crack and injection drugs like heroin totally proves your ignorance and thus ruins any credibility you may have.
Dolphus Raymond
June 2nd, 2008, 02:52 PM
I don't see tobacco prohibition working out any better than alcohol prohibition. I do think that marijuana being a gross misdemeanor, while tobacco is totally legal, is hypocritical. I suspect the legalization of most drugs, though, even if I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole.
Underground_Network
June 2nd, 2008, 03:19 PM
I think they should legalize ketamine... J/k... I agree with the majority of you in that they should heavily tax cigarettes, but not necessarily make them illegal... Limiting or even completely banning advertising of cigarettes isn't a bad idea either. And yeah, cigarettes ARE worse than marijuana... But you also have to realize, that maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to legalize "softer" drugs, like in Amsterdam.
Hyper
June 2nd, 2008, 03:47 PM
Sorry this concept is all but intelligent for me.. I have not once in my life met somebody who ''KILLED THEMSELVES WITH SMOKING'' sure I've met people who could be better but damn I've seen old men who have smoked and drinked their whole lives and who can beat most 30 year old men at many things xD
I agree with everything except the excessive banning & banning advertisement. I really think the banning is a b***h but since I don't smoke IDC.
However making advertisements illegal is pretty much the same as making it illegal, it creates that ''mystery'' for simple minded people to hook up on
Uranus
June 2nd, 2008, 07:53 PM
Wow. I think that taxes would be a good idea. Just like gas people really want to find alternative means. If we make cigs $5 dollars a pack then people will start to quit. It is kinda simple.
For instance, people smoking is bad. That is a giving fact people die from it but nowadays it seems like the only way to get people to stop doing things is to make it hard for them to access. Gas. People are finding new ways to get around that high price. If we did that to cigs we would basically save people.
Where would this money go? As said above into the healthcare system. If we had a universal healthcare system that would be a great area to pump that money into. That means that we can use our other tax money to go ahead and do other projects like...reparing bridges...:rolleyes:
So there are many possibilities. It is just a matter of unlocking them.
kolte
June 2nd, 2008, 08:34 PM
Cigarettes are over 5 dollars a pack. They should be more around 10. That would help.
Uranus
June 2nd, 2008, 08:43 PM
Haha. Sorry, as you can tell I am not a smoker and don't really pay attention to it. So yes, $10 a pack.
Now the issue arises like this. How would we get the american people to go along with this? How do we get the price up to there?
Shattered
June 3rd, 2008, 05:45 PM
More like much worse, but that's a different topic.
No drug should be made entirely illegal. It's a waste of resources to fight it. If someone wants to do drugs they will. It should be illegal in public and heavily taxed, though. Advertising should also be illegal.
I disagree-
Every single smoker i know would never have started if it was illegal in the first place, and wouldn't brake the law to get smokes, so they would stop, and NOT kill themselves. If it's illegal it deters a lot of people, because some people just do it as a habit or relaxation tool or whatever.
0=
June 3rd, 2008, 06:08 PM
They wouldn't have started if there were better health education, no advertisements, smoking were illegal in public nationwide, and cigarettes were three or four times the price they are now. I doubt most of your friends are of legal age or were when they started, anyway. Also, it really doesn't matter to the country if they're killing themselves as long as they're paying their own medical bill with obscene tobacco taxes. If people want to do something, let them; as long as there are regulations that prevent them from harming others it's their right.
Shattered
June 3rd, 2008, 07:26 PM
.. I have not once in my life met somebody who ''KILLED THEMSELVES WITH SMOKING''...
Thats because they are dead.
400000 deaths every year are directly contributable to smoking in the US alone. Whats that? 4% of the worlds population, and not even close to the top amount of smokers
Now that doesn't mean when someone has a heart attack and they smoked a cigarette when they were 18 and they were 98 and their family history was full of heart disease.
That means that people who's deaths were CAUSED by smoking
Lung cancer that was triggered by smoking
Heart disease that is cause from years of smoking
And so many more things that people die from
Hyper
June 4th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Thats because they are dead.
400000 deaths every year are directly contributable to smoking in the US alone. Whats that? 4% of the worlds population, and not even close to the top amount of smokers
Now that doesn't mean when someone has a heart attack and they smoked a cigarette when they were 18 and they were 98 and their family history was full of heart disease.
That means that people who's deaths were CAUSED by smoking
Lung cancer that was triggered by smoking
Heart disease that is cause from years of smoking
And so many more things that people die from
I'm going to ignore you.. Because you did that percentage thing...
kolte
June 4th, 2008, 07:05 PM
I don't think 400,000 people die of cigarette smoke a year in the United States. A lot of the time, When people smoke and they die of heart disease or stroke or cancer, its put down that the cause of there death was smoking. There horrible lifestyle is generally not considered. I think it's much lower, though I couldn't say, not knowing.
Its not to say there not bad though. They suck. I wish they were illegal, but I don't think they should be illegal. catch 22?
*Dissident*
June 5th, 2008, 01:32 AM
No, its up to the buyer to take full responsibility to be cautious about their health. But, there should be more restrictions on where and when you can smoke. I was reading in a magazine (Popular Science) that tobacco smoke decreases global warming because the smoke blocks the UV rays from warming up the Earth too much.
I read that same issue. What you failed to mention is that popular science also said that it was very negligible, and the negative effects of cigarettes far, far, far, FAR outweigh the almost negligible effects of cigarette smoke on global warming.
Darthrage
June 5th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Yes they should be illegal!!! Have you read whats in them??? Well here's the 599 Ingrediants and chemicals in cigarettes.Acetanisole
Acetic Acid
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
Ammonium Sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
1-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
1-Asparagine Monohydrate
1-Aspartic Acid
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl Salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
1,3-Butanediol
2,3-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Butyl Acetate
Butyl Butyrate
Butyl Butyryl Lactate
Butyl Isovalerate
Butyl Phenylacetate
Butyl Undecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid]
Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel Color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
1-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
itronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
Cocoa
Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
1-Cysteine Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic Acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
2,3-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-
Dihydrofuran-2-One
6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-
2-One
3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone
para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl Acetate
Ethyl Acetoacetate
Ethyl Alcohol
Ethyl Benzoate
Ethyl Butyrate
Ethyl Cinnamate
Ethyl Decanoate
Ethyl Fenchol
Ethyl Furoate
Ethyl Heptanoate
Ethyl Hexanoate
Ethyl Isovalerate
Ethyl Lactate
Ethyl Laurate
Ethyl Levulinate
Ethyl Maltol
Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
Ethyl Myristate
Ethyl Nonanoate
Ethyl Octadecanoate
Ethyl Octanoate
Ethyl Oleate
Ethyl Palmitate
Ethyl Phenylacetate
Ethyl Propionate
Ethyl Salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
Ethyl Valerate
Ethyl Vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -
Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2 (5H)-Furanone
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
para-Ethylphenol
3-Ethylpyridine
Eucalyptol
Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
Fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
1-Glutamic Acid
1-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum
2,4-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans -2-Heptenal
Heptyl Acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic Acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
1-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta-Lactone
4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil
Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate, IsoamylHexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
d,l-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid
Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
Kola Nut Extract
Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender Oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
1-Leucine
Levulinic Acid
Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract
and Powder
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl Acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
1-Lysine]
Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl Anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl Phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophene-carboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
Oak Chips Extract and Oil
Oak Moss Absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%)
And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic Acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-One
1-Octen-3-Ol
1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl Isobutyrate
Oleic Acid
Olibanum Oil
Opoponax Oil And Gum
Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
Orange Oil and Extract
Origanum Oil
Orris Concrete Oil and Root
Extract
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenenthyl Alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
1-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
1-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract
Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage
Oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke Flavor
Snakeroot Oil
Sodium Acetate
Sodium Benzoate
Sodium Bicarbonate
Sodium Carbonate
Sodium Chloride
Sodium Citrate
Sodium Hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint Oil
Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
Sucrose Octaacetate
Sugar Alcohols
Sugars
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-
Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
1-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tochopherols (mixed)
Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-
Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-
Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,
3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,
3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
1-Tyrosine
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone, 1
0-Undecenal
Urea
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil
and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Sherry
Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol
Yeast
Sorry if its to big but that all of them!!! Looking at this list makes me sick!!!
Silence
June 5th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Cigarettes are over 5 dollars a pack. They should be more around 10. That would help.
Around here a pack of Marlboro menthol lights are 3 dollars and change, cheaper than gas.
0=
June 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
A list of harmful chemicals in cigarettes would be more useful. Chemicals aren't inherently bad, otherwise anything you consume would be toxic.
*Dissident*
June 5th, 2008, 11:35 PM
coffee has thousands. Everything we consume has thousands. We are made of thousands upon thousands of chemicals. what matters is what kind of chemicals.
Cigarettes should not be illegal. Substances in general should not be illegal, except weaponized substances.
Drug, tobacco, and alcohol education needs to be revamped. More emphasis on the negative effects of alcohol and tobacco, because there isnt enough of that. And more informed less biased info on other drugs. Just look at what they do in the netherlands.
foof1
June 5th, 2008, 11:41 PM
duh! Some people are idiots and make bad choices like smoking, so for their own good, smoking should not be an option for them or for anyone.
Shattered
June 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM
I don't think 400,000 people die of cigarette smoke a year in the United States. A lot of the time, When people smoke and they die of heart disease or stroke or cancer, its put down that the cause of there death was smoking. There horrible lifestyle is generally not considered. I think it's much lower, though I couldn't say, not knowing.
Its not to say there not bad though. They suck. I wish they were illegal, but I don't think they should be illegal. catch 22?
From http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/factsheets/cig_smoking_mort.htm
Cigarette smoking is the single most preventable cause of premature death in the United States. Each year, more than 400,000 Americans die from cigarette smoking. In fact, one in every five deaths in the United States is smoking related.
From http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4545
Cigarette smoking is the most important preventable cause of premature death in the United States. It accounts for nearly 440,000 of the more than 2.4 million annual deaths.
From http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_2X_Cigarette_Smoking.asp
Each year about 438,000 people in the United States die from illnesses related to cigarette smoking. Cigarettes kill more Americans than alcohol, car accidents, suicide, AIDS, homicide, and illegal drugs combined.
From http://www.emedicinehealth.com/cigarette_smoking/article_em.htm
Every year, roughly 430,000 Americans die from illnesses caused by tobacco use, accounting for one fifth of all deaths.
Just search google for deaths from cigarette smoking.
Are you saying each one of these site are wrong?
I'm going to ignore you.. Because you did that percentage thing...
What was the point of your post? How did that help the debate at all? If you don't have anything nice [or helpful] to say don't say anything at all.
0=
June 6th, 2008, 12:04 AM
duh! Some people are idiots and make bad choices like smoking, so for their own good, smoking should not be an option for them or for anyone.
Ever heard of something called freedom?
Shattered
June 6th, 2008, 12:27 AM
Ever heard of something called freedom?
I agree, people make stupid choices all the time, and thats part of freedom
The problem i have with smoking is that in public it endangers others who are making the smart choices
Smoking in public is like drunk driving.
You have the choice to drink, but then since it endangers other people who are doing the right thing, driving while drunk is illegal.
Whisper
June 6th, 2008, 01:17 AM
i dont think it should be made illigal because that just means thugs will make the cash instead of the gov
but i also don't agree with my tax dollars paying for some retards hospital bill because he decided to smoke because its coooool
then refused to stop when u know it kills you
we spend billions on smokers every yr
Celeritas
June 6th, 2008, 02:25 AM
Hmm... Maybe making it so people ho are regular smokers have to pay a lot extra for healthcare?
0=
June 6th, 2008, 02:29 AM
It's called tax the fuck out of tobacco.
Hyper
June 7th, 2008, 03:10 PM
What was the point of your post? How did that help the debate at all? If you don't have anything nice [or helpful] to say don't say anything at all.
Nothing really I was just letting you know that I am going to ignore you because you said this: '' 400000 deaths every year are directly contributable to smoking in the US alone. Whats that? 4% of the worlds population, and not even ''
Its a simple mistake. But since you act so high and mighty.....
Anyway yes tax the fuck out is a great plan, I don't think anything should be banned more.. They already banned smoking in public practically everywhere on the planet.
And yes if you make it illegal there will just be more illegal cigarettes, which is logical... Look at the dry law :P
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