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mba147
July 27th, 2015, 04:43 AM
Hey so I was just looking at the puberty section and saw a pretty large amount of sex questions. Most of these were of course locked and then I thought about it, it would be so much easier for the modders and all the users could get their sex and masturbation questions. I know this sounds a bit ... But if there was a section for sex and masturbation under puberty one for boys, one for girls and maybe one for both it would just make things easier and some teens could get their weird questions answered 😂🎉

drhalsey1
July 27th, 2015, 04:46 AM
That could work, but as said some of the questions are weirder, and a feature like that sounds like it could easily be abused or overdone, and answers could get weird, and, potentially not for all ages this site holds

Gwen
July 27th, 2015, 05:10 AM
Healthy questions are generally allowed to be unlocked, the locked sex threads will be locked usually for potential of abuse or rule breaking of the forum.

Musichead2428
July 27th, 2015, 05:43 AM
Well they are locked but some of these questions that get locked are actually something's that people during puberty seek out help for and its something they can't explain to there parents without them thinking the worst so I'm not complaining but maybe this can actually be useful because the people that want answers get other people's opinions won't need it anymore after they are answered

Abhorrence
July 27th, 2015, 06:05 AM
Well the reason why we don't have one of those forums is because it is against the rules. Having a sex section would literally have the potential to be used primarily as story telling and bragging and probably wouldn't even be used for questions. Serious questions regarding sex education are allowed in the puberty section but more often than not people go way further than a simple sex education question, so they get locked. This is not a forum for sex tips, if you have a genuine sex ed question then post the thread. The worst that can be done is it will be locked, there is definitely no need for an entire new section that will be abused just as much as the puberty section.

mba147
July 27th, 2015, 06:31 AM
I have to say that it's a bit much to say that the puberty section is abused for sex tips. And if there was this sex section, the puberty section wouldn't be "abused" (there wouldn't be any questions regarding masturbation or other sex ed questions)
To set some kind of example I saw a question regarding if whether it was normal or not to stimulate one self anally during masturbation which was locked because it didn't have anything to do with puberty. In some way it doesn't have anything to do with puberty but it also has because this guy wasn't sure if it was normal or what people thought of it. But not more than a couple questions in a modder locked the thread. It's like that on a lot and I mean a lot of questions. Please think about it it would even lower the amount of work modders has to do ❤

And BTW y would it be so bad if people shared there experiences. I highly doubt anyone would brag about their sex experiences haha😂

Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" button. ~Elysium

Elysium
July 27th, 2015, 06:39 AM
And BTW y would it be so bad if people shared there experiences. I highly doubt anyone would brag about their sex experiences haha😂
Because VT isn't a site for erotica, nor will it ever be. Period, end of story, no exceptions.

Abhorrence
July 27th, 2015, 06:53 AM
I have to say that it's a bit much to say that the puberty section is abused for sex tips. And if there was this sex section, the puberty section wouldn't be "abused" (there wouldn't be any questions regarding masturbation or other sex ed questions)
To set some kind of example I saw a question regarding if whether it was normal or not to stimulate one self anally during masturbation which was locked because it didn't have anything to do with puberty. In some way it doesn't have anything to do with puberty but it also has because this guy wasn't sure if it was normal or what people thought of it. But not more than a couple questions in a modder locked the thread. It's like that on a lot and I mean a lot of questions. Please think about it it would even lower the amount of work modders has to do ❤

And BTW y would it be so bad if people shared there experiences. I highly doubt anyone would brag about their sex experiences haha😂

Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" button. ~Elysium
Yes there was that question which I locked and the whole "is it normal" thing is completely unnecessary. When do we ever speak of that in real life? Who ever questions if someone does something in the privacy of their own home? Nobody cares if other people think it's normal since normal is a subjective thing anyway. Not to mention how many posts have the exact same fricking title, it gets extremely boring when every single thread is the exact same as the other. And people would brag about their damn experiences, that is very clear to see when you see people asking "Am I big?" when they clearly know how they're defined in society. This isn't a site for fanfiction, there are many others for that sort of thing.

mba147
July 27th, 2015, 06:56 AM
Woaw there is no need to be mad it's not like I can actually do anything about it and who said it was porn 😓 when I said sharing experiences I meant that people could answer and get answered all the questions "not related to puberty" (which a lot of times actually are misunderstood and are regarding puberty as much as most of the other questions) I hope we can have a happy and learning hypothetical discussion about this. If u think it wouldn't be great please tell us your reasons ❤

Abhorrence
July 27th, 2015, 07:00 AM
Woaw there is no need to be mad it's not like I can actually do anything about it and who said it was porn 😓 when I said sharing experiences I meant that people could answer and get answered all the questions "not related to puberty" (which a lot of times actually are misunderstood and are regarding puberty as much as most of the other questions) I hope we can have a happy and learning hypothetical discussion about this. If u think it wouldn't be great please tell us your reasons ❤

The answer is no, as Elysium said. There is no need for a hypothetical discussion or any reasons it should be put in. Nobody is mad either, it's just never going to happen.

mba147
July 27th, 2015, 07:03 AM
Yes there was that question which I locked and the whole "is it normal" thing is completely unnecessary. When do we ever speak of that in real life? Who ever questions if someone does something in the privacy of their own home? Nobody cares if other people think it's normal since normal is a subjective thing anyway. Not to mention how many posts have the exact same fricking title, it gets extremely boring when every single thread is the exact same as the other. And people would brag about their damn experiences, that is very clear to see when you see people asking "Am I big?" when they clearly know how they're defined in society. This isn't a site for fanfiction, there are many others for that sort of thing.
OK so first of all some people do care that's why they ask. As a modder I personally think you and any other modder should be neutral to those things. And for the "am I big?" Questions, first of all I didn't ever mention those and second of all you can't tell from what they write if they know they're big or not. ❤

Edit:
And if all these thread wouldn't be locked I think you could see a very big fall in the amount coming your way ❤

Edit 2:
Then please take my thoughts about the puberty threads themselves😂❤

Elysium
July 27th, 2015, 07:07 AM
Woaw there is no need to be mad it's not like I can actually do anything about it and who said it was porn 😓 when I said sharing experiences I meant that people could answer and get answered all the questions "not related to puberty" (which a lot of times actually are misunderstood and are regarding puberty as much as most of the other questions) I hope we can have a happy and learning hypothetical discussion about this. If u think it wouldn't be great please tell us your reasons ❤
Nobody's mad at you. This just isn't a discussion we're willing to have. VT isn't the place for that stuff and so it's never going to happen. Sharing sexual experiences, regardless of the intention, definitely veers off into the territory of erotica if it doesn't enter it entirely. I don't know what more I can tell you. If you think moderators are unjustly locking threads, that's a different discussion that you can have over PM with the moderator(s) in question or a senior staff member (a global moderator or administrator).

Uranus
July 27th, 2015, 09:33 AM
OMG Lmao such a great idea!......just kidding. That would probably fuck VT over

Meh Guy
July 27th, 2015, 05:01 PM
OK so first of all some people do care that's why they ask. As a modder I personally think you and any other modder should be neutral to those things. And for the "am I big?" Questions, first of all I didn't ever mention those and second of all you can't tell from what they write if they know they're big or not. ❤

Edit:
And if all these thread wouldn't be locked I think you could see a very big fall in the amount coming your way ❤

Edit 2:
Then please take my thoughts about the puberty threads themselves😂❤

The threads you see locked are, in the opinion of a moderator, unrelated to puberty and sex Ed. The reason some may seem unjustly locked is because all of us not just the staff have seen time and time again those kind of similar questions go down the "not so safe for work" path. Not only that, you can usually find one of those threads, locked or unlocked, that has the answer in them. As has been mentioned, if you really think a topic should be unlocked, it's best to take that up with the specific staff member.

Having a forum related to sex wouldn't actually decrease the moderators work load, it would just move the possibly inappropriate threads from one place to another. This would effectively add to the workload, as they would now have to mod another sub forum.

This is a decent idea at first, but it's just too easily abused and risqué for a site made for teens. As for the story telling, just take a look through P101 Archive, some people are more than willing to share experiences from their personal lives.

Karkat
July 28th, 2015, 01:02 AM
OK so first of all some people do care that's why they ask. As a modder I personally think you and any other modder should be neutral to those things. And for the "am I big?" Questions, first of all I didn't ever mention those and second of all you can't tell from what they write if they know they're big or not. ❤

Edit:
And if all these thread wouldn't be locked I think you could see a very big fall in the amount coming your way ❤

Edit 2:
Then please take my thoughts about the puberty threads themselves😂❤

Ok, since you're so interested in a non-moderator, 'unbiased' opinion, here's mine.

Don't worry, I've never been a moderator, I'm too rude and arrogant.

1. As a mod, it's their job to not be neutral on these things. They're here to keep the site running smoothly, and this includes enforcing rules. The rules happen to be that this is a teen environment, and not an adult environment. Sexually explicit material is inappropriate because those who own and run the site deem it to be so, and the vast majority of us who are regular and contribute to this site as members as well as staff agree with these rules.

2. The internet is filled with creeps. There are many ways this could be not only a privacy issue, but a safety issue. If someone were to "compliment" someone on their sexual story, or ask detailed questions about 'information, so they could answer their question better', it could lead to sharing of outside information (an act that is allowed on VT for non-malicious purposes) that results in sexual harassment, or worse.

There are some members of the site as young as thirteen, and it would be horrendous if something happened to them because the moderators decided they were mature enough to be adults.

Newsflash: as much as 13 year olds like to think they're mature and can handle the 'real world', this rarely is the case. When you're young, you're naive and make stupid decisions. It can mess you up, or put you in an extremely bad situation. I know from personal experience.

This is not the precise reason these rules are in place, just an outside observation, but with this in mind, I'm sure the staff have a completely valid reason for having the rules they do.

3. If you want to have explicit, adult conversations, don't go to a teen forum for them. Simple.

DerBear
July 28th, 2015, 09:09 AM
And BTW y would it be so bad if people shared there experiences. I highly doubt anyone would brag about their sex experiences haha😂

Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" button. ~Elysium

Yes, yes it would.

You'd have perverts and paedophiles trolling the forums getting off on teens sharing their sex experiences.

Kirina
July 28th, 2015, 11:21 AM
Right now, this forums rule against "not puberty related" questions is doing more harm than good (potentially hurting people IRL).

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226109 This one is a really good example.

User is curious about anal play (this curiousity is probably because their in puberty btw). We can assume they ask the question on this site because they suck at using search engines and/or don't trust other sites but feel safe in this forum.

The thread got one reply with bad advices and then it was locked.
You can use whatever you want.
No, you can't use whatever you want. Soap is not lube and you should definitely not put a pen up your ass. However anyone ever asking these questions won't get to know what is safe and as a result, if they follow the poor advices they can end up hurting themselves. You can't really blame them for asking here either..

This is the best site for teens to ask questions, find answers, and give advice. The site's mission is to provide teens with a network of peer support. Any teen can find help for anything at Virtual Teen.

phuckphace
July 28th, 2015, 11:54 AM
no thanks, P101 gives me PTSD already (and AIDS)

Meh Guy
July 28th, 2015, 06:05 PM
Right now, this forums rule against "not puberty related" questions is doing more harm than good (potentially hurting people IRL).

...

The thread got one reply with bad advices and then it was locked.

...

However anyone ever asking these questions won't get to know what is safe and as a result, if they follow the poor advices they can end up hurting themselves. You can't really blame them for asking here either..

As I mentioned before, go through some P101 Archive threads and you'll find the answer to the question in one of the threads, that's what it's there for. these kind of threads have gone wrong in the past and aren't necessary.

WanderingHeart
July 28th, 2015, 06:55 PM
A sex form? You're joking. I hid the entire puberty section because a lot of it, the girls section too, made me very uncomfortable. And putting a bunch of teens together in a SEX FORM
Is not going to work.

Uranus
July 28th, 2015, 09:04 PM
Right now, this forums rule against "not puberty related" questions is doing more harm than good (potentially hurting people IRL).

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226109 This one is a really good example.

User is curious about anal play (this curiousity is probably because their in puberty btw). We can assume they ask the question on this site because they suck at using search engines and/or don't trust other sites but feel safe in this forum.

The thread got one reply with bad advices and then it was locked.

No, you can't use whatever you want. Soap is not lube and you should definitely not put a pen up your ass. However anyone ever asking these questions won't get to know what is safe and as a result, if they follow the poor advices they can end up hurting themselves. You can't really blame them for asking here either..

Yea that's what Yahoo is for, not VT. Unless you'd rather let everything be permissible and tell Herbert (Hint Hint) he can come and talk to the little boys. And other disgusting things. Or better yet, let them go to a sex forum and ask there because i don't think they'd give a fuck, but that's my opinion so take it (No, that wasn't meant to be sexual.)

I'm done...

Kirina
July 28th, 2015, 10:39 PM
Stop mentioning the archive, yahoo answers, google or anywhere else where that information is available. It is irrelevant. When someone asks for advice on this forum, it obviously is because they couldn't find information elsewhere or found it easier to ask on this forum. Yes, they could have read yahoo answers, but they didn't. They asked here, but we don't help, we don't make sure that what they do with their body is safe. No, we just lock the thread. They can shove knifes up their vagina for all we care.

Before mods lock threads, do at least delete the bad advices any user has given.

Maybe allowing these questions will lead to more story telling (erotica). If that's the case, mods can just delete the inappropriate replies. Workload won't increase much.

ImCoolBeans
July 28th, 2015, 11:01 PM
Stop mentioning the archive, yahoo answers, google or anywhere else where that information is available. It is irrelevant. When someone asks for advice on this forum, it obviously is because they couldn't find information elsewhere or found it easier to ask on this forum. Yes, they could have read yahoo answers, but they didn't. They asked here, but we don't help, we don't make sure that what they do with their body is safe. No, we just lock the thread. They can shove knifes up their vagina for all we care.

Before mods lock threads, do at least delete the bad advices any user has given.

Maybe allowing these questions will lead to more story telling (erotica). If that's the case, mods can just delete the inappropriate replies. Workload won't increase much.

The Puberty101 forums are for teenagers, who are technically children whom we are partly responsible for while they are on this site, to ask questions about their development, other puberty-related topics like masturbation, and other related topics that may not be 100% puberty related, but we recognize that they are still relevent. For example, questions about porn or experimentation. This is labeled pretty clearly all over the section -- we advertise to not be a forum about sex, but rather a supportive community where you can ask questions that you may not feel comfortable asking elsewhere. I don't really care what ask or yahoo answers allow or don't allow, so I'm not even going to mention it again because those are totally different sites.

We don't have a sex forum because while sex may be enticing, interesting, or enthralling, it attracts a shady crowd. I think drawing in a crowd of internet pervs, more than the P101 forums already do, is a terrible idea. Nobody on this site wants to take on that responsibility, and to be frank, I sure as hell don't want that legal responsibility.

You keep mentioning how we allow people to give bad advice. Sorry, but that is not 100% in our control. If you're looking for professional advice I suggest that you speak to a doctor, or ask your health teacher. We'll do our very best to steer everybody in the right direction, but if you're asking questions about what you should use to anally masturbate, your thread is going to be locked, and I don't think "Sorry I personally feel like you gave bad advice" is a fair reason to delete posts, something I think most members would agree with -- sorry that you don't. Next time I get an email saying that somebody stuck a knife up his/her anus because they got bad advice on this site I'll revisit this, and maybe then we'll start arbitrarily deleting posts that we don't like.

We're always going to do our very best to protect our users, and allowing a sex forum is not aligned with that, for reasons I explained in this post. Sorry bud.

Kirina
July 28th, 2015, 11:51 PM
Next time I get an email saying that somebody stuck a knife up his/her anus because they got bad advice on this site I'll revisit this.
The knife is an exaggeration (hopefully). Point is, readers of this forum may have used object(s) anally that they shouldn't, potentially harming them. Which could have been avoided if this forum supported those questions. It's probably uncommon tho, it's just unfortunate for the few that do get hurt.

but I realize now that allowing it will lead to more bad than good.

Let Me Be a Pony
July 29th, 2015, 12:44 AM
If that gets you off, OP, then sure, why not. Viagra is on the house anytime, bby.

A sex form? You're joking. I hid the entire puberty section because a lot of it, the girls section too, made me very uncomfortable. And putting a bunch of teens together in a SEX FORM
Is not going to work.

Yes. ^

But... +1 to OP for very original idea.

Meh Guy
July 29th, 2015, 04:10 AM
The knife is an exaggeration (hopefully). Point is, readers of this forum may have used object(s) anally that they shouldn't, potentially harming them. Which could have been avoided if this forum supported those questions. It's probably uncommon tho, it's just unfortunate for the few that do get hurt.

I realize that some teens are actually quite curious when it comes to these things. But, if nothing else, common sense has to come into play. Literally half the problems would be solved, without having to post on VT or anywhere else about it if you follow these questions:

Is it going to do physical harm to me?

Is it something that would be embarrassing to tell someone about if something goes wrong (I.e. A doctor)?

Etc, etc.

It's just for one teen who actually has a serious question, like 10 shady characters are just waiting for the next one to get off too. Unfortunate, but reality.

ImCoolBeans
July 29th, 2015, 10:25 AM
I'm going to lock this thread. If anybody has any more questions or concerns you can PM me, or another admin, about it. :locked: