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TheMcFatty
August 13th, 2017, 02:45 AM
I think that a app on iOS and android would be amazing. It is really difficult to navigate this site through safari on my iPhone 4s and I believe an app would make it much easier. Don't you all agree?

devotionnel
August 13th, 2017, 03:20 AM
We used to have our forum on an app called Tapatalk but it was removed early last year if I remember correctly due to security issues regarding the chat room - it couldn't be moderated - and other things.

If it is such an issue you can change the theme of the site to the mobile mode which can make it somewhat easier to navigate.

Endeavour
August 13th, 2017, 05:40 AM
What devotionnel says above is correct - it couldn't be moderated properly and various security flaws meant that we had to remove it. It wouldn't really be possible to create an app of our own due to the cost and complexity required.

xXl0sth0peXx
August 13th, 2017, 11:59 AM
You can always turn on the mobile version of the forum through your browser.

The above is correct however. Third party apps that we have tried have not worked out, and it's out of our skill range and price range to create an app or have one created. We're volunteers, and it's just not feasible for us.

Just JT
August 13th, 2017, 12:27 PM
How do you turn on the mobile version?
Didn't know we even had one

Endeavour
August 13th, 2017, 12:29 PM
How do you turn on the mobile version?
Didn't know we even had one

If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, at the bottom left there is a drop down box and you see all the styles there, the mobile version is one of them.

Just JT
August 13th, 2017, 12:30 PM
If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, at the bottom left there is a drop down box and you see all the styles there, the mobile version is one of them.

Cool. I'll try this for a while. See if it's better or not
Thanks

PlasmaHam
August 13th, 2017, 03:18 PM
I've never much liked the mobile version, I typically just use the regular version on my phone, it works fine for me.

As has been stated, there are moderation issues with integrating the site with third party apps, and creating a custom app is simply not feasible given cash and skill levels. I've created a few apps myself, so I can testify that trying to integrate a forum with hundred of thousands of pages into a mobile application requires advanced software and training to do.

Just JT
August 13th, 2017, 09:03 PM
I've never much liked the mobile version, I typically just use the regular version on my phone, it works fine for me.

As has been stated, there are moderation issues with integrating the site with third party apps, and creating a custom app is simply not feasible given cash and skill levels. I've created a few apps myself, so I can testify that trying to integrate a forum with hundred of thousands of pages into a mobile application requires advanced software and training to do.

Yup, tried the mobile. It sucks. You see much more on the full site even if you do have to navigate around more

Dalcourt
August 13th, 2017, 10:54 PM
I don't have a computer or anything so I'm always just on my phone.
Never use the mobile site, always the full one and never had any problems.
So don't think an app is needed.

Just JT
August 13th, 2017, 11:45 PM
I remember a mod in another forum tell me one time that in tap talk he could look up all the forums a member was is. Even with different usernames in different forums

Must be linked by email, and I was surprised he told me that. Which is why I never got tap talk. Not hiding anything, but. Security issues are like I don't want whoever prying in my shirt when ever

Fleek
August 14th, 2017, 09:47 PM
https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2579194

This might work... The vBulletin Mobile Suite

PlasmaHam
August 14th, 2017, 10:10 PM
https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2579194

This might work... The vBulletin Mobile Suite

Yea, it would probably work very well given that it is specifically designed for vbulletin forums, and thus should integrate smoothly with VT. Also, from what I've read, we could put it on the online app stores to help advertise VT to primarily mobile users.

However, there is a bit of info your link didn't point out. There is a $200 licensing fee for the mobile suite, which is probably out the admins' price range currently. Good idea though. Perhaps (and this is totally up to the staff) if there is enough interest in a mobile site, we could set up a gofundme page, or some other way for people to donate money so that we could eventually get a mobile app. I know there are a host of issues regarding doing something like that, but it is an idea that may be good to ponder on.

Endeavour
August 15th, 2017, 02:58 AM
Yea, it would probably work very well given that it is specifically designed for vbulletin forums, and thus should integrate smoothly with VT. Also, from what I've read, we could put it on the online app stores to help advertise VT to primarily mobile users.

However, there is a bit of info your link didn't point out. There is a $200 licensing fee for the mobile suite, which is probably out the admins' price range currently. Good idea though. Perhaps (and this is totally up to the staff) if there is enough interest in a mobile site, we could set up a gofundme page, or some other way for people to donate money so that we could eventually get a mobile app. I know there are a host of issues regarding doing something like that, but it is an idea that may be good to ponder on.

Yeah. We can't expect the admins to pay an extra $200 for a mobile suite when firstly we already have a mobile version and second many people I know, myself included, never even used tapatalk and just used the normal version of the site on the phones browser.

And we really can't accept donations over gofundme or anything similar. This not only goes for this situation, but we do not allow fundraising sites anywhere on the site for any reason. We just can't ask under 18s to donate in this way.

PlasmaHam
August 15th, 2017, 09:18 AM
And we really can't accept donations over gofundme or anything similar. This not only goes for this situation, but we do not allow fundraising sites anywhere on the site for any reason. We just can't ask under 18s to donate in this way.
I'm just saying since I've seen other teen forums accept donations for site maintenance and updates.

ImCoolBeans
August 15th, 2017, 01:00 PM
There is a $200 licensing fee for the mobile suite, which is probably out the admins' price range currently.

Says you :P


Anyway, I think the mobile suite is for the newer versions of vBulletin, which we are not using.

DerBear
August 15th, 2017, 02:18 PM
I'm just saying since I've seen other teen forums accept donations for site maintenance and updates.

Generally speaking that's quite sketchy. Taking donations from under 18s is a sketchy territory to be in. The admins don't want a parent contacting them because they've found out their kid has donated his or their money to an online website.

I guess that those teen sites you're talking about probably have an older base of members as well, those 18+ who probably do most of the donating. If not then....to me that's potentially sketchy. I couldn't imagine asking 13-16 year olds to donate for any cause with myself being 21.

It would be different if maybe they allowed those 18+ to donate. It's different then as they're likely to be in work and manage their own finances.

Fleek
August 15th, 2017, 09:59 PM
Says you :P


Anyway, I think the mobile suite is for the newer versions of vBulletin, which we are not using.

#UpdateTheBulletin xD

Sere
August 16th, 2017, 12:36 AM
I don't think VT needs an app, I don't like taptalks feel or the mobile version either... Lol
I do like the older feel of the bulletin tho :D

Flapjack
August 16th, 2017, 10:24 AM
Generally speaking that's quite sketchy. Taking donations from under 18s is a sketchy territory to be in. The admins don't want a parent contacting them because they've found out their kid has donated his or their money to an online website.

I guess that those teen sites you're talking about probably have an older base of members as well, those 18+ who probably do most of the donating. If not then....to me that's potentially sketchy. I couldn't imagine asking 13-16 year olds to donate for any cause with myself being 21.

It would be different if maybe they allowed those 18+ to donate. It's different then as they're likely to be in work and manage their own finances.
They would have to have a way of verifying age but I do believe this is a great idea to raise funds for chatrooms, apps and even the sites hosting!!

I would be more tan happy to donate some money... when my job finally pays me XD

As for verifying age they could say you need to send a photo of yourself with your vt id number thing and a photo of a driving licence or passport :)

Dalcourt
August 16th, 2017, 12:34 PM
They would have to have a way of verifying age but I do believe this is a great idea to raise funds for chatrooms, apps and even the sites hosting!!

I would be more tan happy to donate some money... when my job finally pays me XD

As for verifying age they could say you need to send a photo of yourself with your vt id number thing and a photo of a driving licence or passport :)

Donating for the site isn't a bad idea per se.

Since I'm not 18 it doesn't really concern me but finding a way to verify age or so isn't so easy. I mean I wouldn't want to send my drivers license or anything somewhere where I can't control what becomes of my data, just saying.

PlasmaHam
August 17th, 2017, 02:51 PM
I think sites like Gofundme already provide adequate protections for donation. There is already an 18+ restriction for donating via Gofundme (13+ with parental permission), plus, there are very few <18 year old kids who have a credit/debit card and have enough money to be willing to part with. Unless a kid goes and steals a parents credit card (which is very unlikely) I doubt we would be dealing with kids donating without parent consent, or atleast care.

Even if we don't pursue the app (which I personally am totally fine with) we could use the money raised for other purposes. For example, I'm sure that hosting a large site like VT isn't cheap, supplementing the cost sure would help. Also a potential chatroom software, as I know there was some possiblities y'all were looking at, but were likely too pricey to get. This is up to the admin, y'all are the ones who deal with this kinda stuff anyway, but just consider this.


Also, while we are on the topic of site advertisement, I think a thing that would do the site more good than an app, is to expand VT's social media presence. As in, actually give the site a social media presence. While I am far from an expert on social media, I know enough to see that it is one of the biggest and easiest ways to attract teenagers to your site. I know other forums have Facebook, Twitter, and other social media pages, so why not VT? I know this is not relevant to the discussion here, but I just wanted to bring it up.

Diana2002
August 18th, 2017, 06:41 AM
it would be nice, however the website works pretty fine on my phone too

Mark2000
September 7th, 2017, 03:27 AM
Yea, it would probably work very well given that it is specifically designed for vbulletin forums, and thus should integrate smoothly with VT. Also, from what I've read, we could put it on the online app stores to help advertise VT to primarily mobile users.

However, there is a bit of info your link didn't point out. There is a $200 licensing fee for the mobile suite, which is probably out the admins' price range currently. Good idea though. Perhaps (and this is totally up to the staff) if there is enough interest in a mobile site, we could set up a gofundme page, or some other way for people to donate money so that we could eventually get a mobile app. I know there are a host of issues regarding doing something like that, but it is an idea that may be good to ponder on.
My parents would donate.