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phuckphace
October 17th, 2016, 10:13 AM
ITT we list reasons why, despite our recent unfortunate decline, 'MURICA is still a p.cool place.

1. Our presidential elections. they're entertaining af, and I'm always floored by how many foreigners closely follow them every election year. our true national sport, they are.

2. English widely spoken. it's very handy speaking the world's most sought-after language. use of the English language would've declined along with the former British Empire if not for 'MURICA extending its relevance by another century at least. you're welcome m8s.

3. Being able to legally kill someone who tries to kill you. this triggers our Eurofriends especially hard (apparently you're supposed to just kneel to your attacker and accept your demise).

4. Free speech - being able to say "THE HOLOCAUST WAS A LIE, 14/88 HEIL HITLER" and disseminating other sorts of mass-triggering without ending up in Euro reeducation jail

5. Knowing that Muslim grope/stab/shootfests like in Germany are unfeasible outside of the Orwellian coastal cities due to rifles behind every blade of grass

6. Patriotism - in Europe you don't fly your country's flag or anything of the sort unless you're an evil neo-Nazi nationalist. by contrast many people all across the political spectrum in America consider themselves patriotic. you see our flag in a lot of places that are unusual elsewhere. my friend's mom immigrated from Hungary and said that this is one of her favorite things about America - if you fly the Hungarian flag in Hungary, people will think you're a Jobbik supporter.

7. Being able to buy a huge gas guzzling truck without paying a $60,000 tax to a champagne socialist bureaucrat who will then blow it on a mansion in Brussels

8. populism - our political system, flawed as it is, occasionally lets some populism slip past the gates to undo some of the mistakes of the recent past without going full continent-wrecking Fascism (Sherman Act, etc.) also, the God-Emperor. haters gonna hate.

9. VirtualTeen

Flapjack
October 17th, 2016, 11:05 AM
1.Tbh I think how the elections are geared towards entertainment rather than policy is a negative. Foreigners follow US elections because of how much the next US President would effect the rest of the world, as well as for entertainment.

2. Yeah English being widely spoken is good for me, an English speaker and tbh it is better for one language to be popular across many countries.

3. I don't think you know much about European law... xD If someone is trying to kill you then you can use appropriate force and try to kill them. No that does not mean shooting someone who is running away. That is a good thing.

4. Yeah free speech is good although hate speech and inciting violence is bad and should be illegal!

5. Clear islamophobia, I would feel much safer in Germany that in the US where the kids are told how to hide from a shooter and there is a mass shooting every single day and where there are guns everywhere.

6. Nothing wrong with flying a flag

7. Yeah how cheap stuff is in the US is amazing! I would have chosen homes as a better example, I believe you get 2x the area in the US than the UK for the same price!

8. The US political system is atrocious.

9. Yeah VT is epic xD

A few things I appreciate about the US

1. Contributions to the western culture
2. Contributions to science
3. The beautiful tourist locations

phuckphace
October 17th, 2016, 11:20 AM
10. a significant portion of the populace distrusts the (((mass media))) c.f. Euros who all bleep-bloop the same centrally-managed MSNBC-tier narrative (see above post)

11. toxic masculinity still widespread despite recent attempts to eliminate it, c.f. Euro countries all run by frumpy feminist Angela Merkel lookalikes

CosmicNoodle
October 17th, 2016, 11:45 AM
>generalisation
>ROTW
>Ramblings of the wise
>wise
>lel

PlasmaHam
October 17th, 2016, 12:13 PM
http://images2.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED21/51c73dbd9b845.jpeg

1. Yep, the elections are unique, though I'm not sure this election is putting a pretty good image out there. We have an egotist and a criminal running for office, God bless America indeed.

2. English is very handy.

3. This is more of state-by-state issue, but since most states do support stand your ground laws, I guess you could apply this to America. I don't believe our European friends here even comprehend that idea, I guess that is why they needed American help the last 2 times someone attempted to take them over.

4. Europeans claim free speech yet it is pretty obvious that they don't have it. Someone who wants to prohibit speech that they don't like is leaning more towards a dictatorship than a democracy. But since our European friends are so indoctrinated, I guess I'll give a few examples:

A. Man arrested for planning to draw Mohammed (http://louderwithcrowder.com/uk-man-actually-arrested-for-anti-islam-thoughts/)
B. Atheist arrested and sentenced for leaving provocative religious imagery at train station. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8549613.stm)
C.5 Muslim Men arrested for spreading anti-gay leaflets (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/287991/crime-leafleting-charles-c-w-cooke)
D. Man arrested for posting racial tweets while drunk (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/294727/british-freedom-speech-endangered-charles-c-w-cooke)
E. UK Police make looking at a woman's breasts a criminal hate crime. (http://louderwithcrowder.com/uk-police-misogynist-staring/)
F. Woman arrested for anti-white comments (Silly English Woman Is Being Charged for Tweeting Rude Things Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/425170/silly-english-woman-being-charged-tweeting-rude-things-charles-c-w-cooke)
G. Man arrested for singing the song "Kung Fu Fighting" at a bar. (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42779407/ns/world_news-europe/t/man-arrested-singing-kung-fu-fighting/#.VkUnD4Qb7ww)
H. Numerous Social media outlets team up with EU to ban "hate speech" on their European sites. (http://louderwithcrowder.com/facebook-youtube-twitter-agree-to-censor-europe/)
I. EU orders British press to not tell public if a terrorist was Muslim (http://louderwithcrowder.com/eu-orders-uk-press-not-reveal-terrorists-muslim-yes-really/)
5. Europe has shown us pretty well what inviting Millions of Muslims does to your country. I'm sure the French are just loving having hundreds of their citizens killed for the sake of diversity.

6. Patriotism is seen in a much more positive light in American than most other countries. Celebrating Independence day in the US makes you look like a model citizen, celebrating Independence day in many other countries is seen as over-nationalism.

7. I have a 16 year old American made truck, and a 4 year old Japanese car. Guess which one is more cheaply made and is much more problematic? You can't beat American quality, though the Germans are pretty close.

mattsmith48
October 17th, 2016, 12:29 PM
ITT we list reasons why, despite our recent unfortunate decline, 'MURICA is still a p.cool place.

1. Our presidential elections. they're entertaining af, and I'm always floored by how many foreigners closely follow them every election year. our true national sport, they are.

2. English widely spoken. it's very handy speaking the world's most sought-after language. use of the English language would've declined along with the former British Empire if not for 'MURICA extending its relevance by another century at least. you're welcome m8s.

3. Being able to legally kill someone who tries to kill you. this triggers our Eurofriends especially hard (apparently you're supposed to just kneel to your attacker and accept your demise).

4. Free speech - being able to say "THE HOLOCAUST WAS A LIE, 14/88 HEIL HITLER" and disseminating other sorts of mass-triggering without ending up in Euro reeducation jail

5. Knowing that Muslim grope/stab/shootfests like in Germany are unfeasible outside of the Orwellian coastal cities due to rifles behind every blade of grass

6. Patriotism - in Europe you don't fly your country's flag or anything of the sort unless you're an evil neo-Nazi nationalist. by contrast many people all across the political spectrum in America consider themselves patriotic. you see our flag in a lot of places that are unusual elsewhere. my friend's mom immigrated from Hungary and said that this is one of her favorite things about America - if you fly the Hungarian flag in Hungary, people will think you're a Jobbik supporter.

7. Being able to buy a huge gas guzzling truck without paying a $60,000 tax to a champagne socialist bureaucrat who will then blow it on a mansion in Brussels

8. populism - our political system, flawed as it is, occasionally lets some populism slip past the gates to undo some of the mistakes of the recent past without going full continent-wrecking Fascism (Sherman Act, etc.) also, the God-Emperor. haters gonna hate.

9. VirtualTeen

-You guys also lead the world in gun violence, in police brutality and in incarceration rate

-You still have a race problem

-You pay more for health care than countries with single payer, but you still don't want to change

-One of your major political party is openly racist and anti-science

-You have no liberal party

-You have legalize corruption

-And half of your country believe Trump should be president.

Vlerchan
October 17th, 2016, 12:36 PM
Reminder: In Ireland you can shoot someone in the back for invading your home-dwelling, with or without warning. But engaging in Blasphemy is, unfortunately, still illegal.

I will contribute a list later. It took a shorter time than I thought it would for this to turn into the 'dump on the United States' thread.

Flapjack
October 17th, 2016, 04:14 PM
But engaging in Blasphemy is, unfortunately, still illegal.
Interesting, do people in Ireland still get arrested for this?

phuckphace
October 17th, 2016, 04:29 PM
12. lots of food available everywhere 24/7 in great variety. food snobs like to dump on Murican ripoffs of ethnic food, but personally I like Taco Bell more than the authentic stuff I tried in Mexico.

13. you can file most of your bills in the Shred-O-Matic without worrying about getting dragged off to debt prison by bailiffs. while our megacorps do have inordinate amounts of political influence, you can still give them the finger whenever you decide you're done being ripped off. sure, your credit will take a hit, but you aren't paid enough for it to matter anyway (it's 2016).

Flapjack
October 17th, 2016, 04:34 PM
12. Yeah that is awesome XD

13. No idea what you're talking about? Must be an American thing

Is it true that in the US they don't include VAT on the label of stuff?

Oh and I might actually move to the US when I am older xD I really love America although atm I think it has a few too many problems but hopefully in the future I can! Currently I am looking at Australia or Canada. Hopefully in a few years the US sorts itself out and I can move there :')

phuckphace
October 17th, 2016, 06:09 PM
Is it true that in the US they don't include VAT on the label of stuff?

excise tax is included in the shelf price of cigarettes and gasoline, but that's about it. it's called sales tax instead of value-added tax because the tax is levied at the point of sale on the total amount rather than calculated into the products themselves. all you really gotta do is figure shelf price + 8.9% percent.

Paraxiom
October 17th, 2016, 06:14 PM
ITT we list reasons why, despite our recent unfortunate decline, 'MURICA is still a p.cool place.

Yay! :rolleyes:

I'm going to probably disrupt this by doing my best to appreciate the US, but along with me responding to what the OP has said (respectfully, of course).

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1. Our presidential elections. they're entertaining af, and I'm always floored by how many foreigners closely follow them every election year. our true national sport, they are.

They are entertaining sometimes, yes, and a practical sport. Why have popular reality TV when this is a thing?

That they are so prominent internationally feeds into a set of reasons that backs americentralism as well, which I'm sympathetic to as a view.


2. English widely spoken. it's very handy speaking the world's most sought-after language. use of the English language would've declined along with the former British Empire if not for 'MURICA extending its relevance by another century at least. you're welcome m8s.

I don't congratulate or appreciate the massive worldwide presence of English much past anything that demonstrates how central control is not necessary in running a society-scale construct. It's near-universality means great ease of communication, but this is at the cost of the extinction of hundreds of other languages in the past and ongoing present.


3. Being able to legally kill someone who tries to kill you. this triggers our Eurofriends especially hard (apparently you're supposed to just kneel to your attacker and accept your demise).

Such 'Eurofriends' (as described) I dislike just as much as those who legally kill preemptively.


4. Free speech - being able to say "THE HOLOCAUST WAS A LIE, 14/88 HEIL HITLER" and disseminating other sorts of mass-triggering without ending up in Euro reeducation jail

Yeah, public free speech I don't have any inherent problem with, but with a near/total lack of epistemic responsibility I do have a problem with.


5. Knowing that Muslim grope/stab/shootfests like in Germany are unfeasible outside of the Orwellian coastal cities due to rifles behind every blade of grass

〈no comment〉


6. Patriotism - in Europe you don't fly your country's flag or anything of the sort unless you're an evil neo-Nazi nationalist. by contrast many people all across the political spectrum in America consider themselves patriotic. you see our flag in a lot of places that are unusual elsewhere. my friend's mom immigrated from Hungary and said that this is one of her favorite things about America - if you fly the Hungarian flag in Hungary, people will think you're a Jobbik supporter.

Lovely.


7. Being able to buy a huge gas guzzling truck without paying a $60,000 tax to a champagne socialist bureaucrat who will then blow it on a mansion in Brussels

Alright.


8. populism - our political system, flawed as it is, occasionally lets some populism slip past the gates to undo some of the mistakes of the recent past without going full continent-wrecking Fascism (Sherman Act, etc.) also, the God-Emperor. haters gonna hate.

Funny I consider unlimited forms of this to be a factor in the possible demise of the US.


9. VirtualTeen

Trivial in my view, but alright. (it's .org currently :D )


10. a significant portion of the populace distrusts the (((mass media))) c.f. Euros who all bleep-bloop the same centrally-managed MSNBC-tier narrative (see above post)

If Fox News is included here then that is some good.


11. toxic masculinity still widespread despite recent attempts to eliminate it, c.f. Euro countries all run by frumpy feminist Angela Merkel lookalikes

I take it you mean that in sarcasm.


12. lots of food available everywhere 24/7 in great variety. food snobs like to dump on Murican ripoffs of ethnic food, but personally I like Taco Bell more than the authentic stuff I tried in Mexico.

I see the over-abundance of food to be the opposite of good... like is it something like half of the US population is overweight?

So: really? :confused:

There was a 'mild' conspiracy theory that the huge abundance of food in the US is so that a huge amount of the population feels lazy/lethargic from it, and that follows through psychologically. I'm actually not shooting that one down (take it whatever way you want, but my above point is a thing anyway).


13. you can file most of your bills in the Shred-O-Matic without worrying about getting dragged off to debt prison by bailiffs. while our megacorps do have inordinate amounts of political influence, you can still give them the finger whenever you decide you're done being ripped off. sure, your credit will take a hit, but you aren't paid enough for it to matter anyway (it's 2016).

Haven't heard of that phenomenon but I will take your word and say alright.

- - - - - - - -

Now for me. What do I appreciate about the US?

1: The US has incredible range of diversity across its population, though most of this diversity would be in the minority (but a big minority). I have learned much more about how the current world is effectively dystopian through good examples, than I would have learned otherwise. The world is incredibly diverse (in good and bad ways) as a whole, and the US is a major contributor to this. I accept that I live in very interesting times.

2: Immense scientific/philosophical/historical/etc contributions, from those who live in the US.


That's about it as far as what I can think of now.

Fin. (for now)

ThisBougieLife
October 17th, 2016, 07:49 PM
America is beautiful. Yosemite, Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, the red deserts of Utah and Arizona, the swamps of Florida, Niagara Falls, the temperate rain forests of Washington and Oregon, the oak-studded hills of California...America is a land of immense natural beauty. As much as I desire to see a lot of the world, there is still plenty more to see here in my own country.

Porpoise101
October 17th, 2016, 08:04 PM
ITT we list reasons why, despite our recent unfortunate decline, 'MURICA is still a p.cool place.

A worthwhile endeavor

1. Our presidential elections. they're entertaining af, and I'm always floored by how many foreigners closely follow them every election year. our true national sport, they are.

I think that it is a good thing as well. As long as actual information relating to the candidates' ideas, I think it is good that people follow them for entertainment.

2. English widely spoken. it's very handy speaking the world's most sought-after language. use of the English language would've declined along with the former British Empire if not for 'MURICA extending its relevance by another century at least. you're welcome m8s.

Yea, that is a good point. However, it is also kind of unfortunate for all you assimilated white/black people because you will forever struggle to learn a second tongue easily.

3. Being able to legally kill someone who tries to kill you. this triggers our Eurofriends especially hard (apparently you're supposed to just kneel to your attacker and accept your demise).

Sure, I like this.

4. Free speech - being able to say "THE HOLOCAUST WAS A LIE, 14/88 HEIL HITLER" and disseminating other sorts of mass-triggering without ending up in Euro reeducation jail

This is good because the government shouldn't issue repercussions based on speech. However, I do believe that all speech should be public. Anonymity is a sin in my view, unless you are under threat of life.

5. Knowing that Muslim grope/stab/shootfests like in Germany are unfeasible outside of the Orwellian coastal cities due to rifles behind every blade of grass
Or maybe because no one lives in the heartland :D:D

6. Patriotism - in Europe you don't fly your country's flag or anything of the sort unless you're an evil neo-Nazi nationalist. by contrast many people all across the political spectrum in America consider themselves patriotic. you see our flag in a lot of places that are unusual elsewhere. my friend's mom immigrated from Hungary and said that this is one of her favorite things about America - if you fly the Hungarian flag in Hungary, people will think you're a Jobbik supporter.

Yes, I am happy that patriotism is still a thing. I'm no 'American Nationalist,' but I do think that a little flag-waving does wonders for making a better country as a whole.

7. Being able to buy a huge gas guzzling truck without paying a $60,000 tax to a champagne socialist bureaucrat who will then blow it on a mansion in Brussels

Eh. I don't like trucks that much tbh. Very annoying.

8. populism - our political system, flawed as it is, occasionally lets some populism slip past the gates to undo some of the mistakes of the recent past without going full continent-wrecking Fascism (Sherman Act, etc.) also, the God-Emperor. haters gonna hate.

I think our government system is actually very nice in this way. Allows some popular energy to come in without actually threatening the elites too much (unless they majorly mess up)

9. VirtualTeen

What would I do without ROTW??
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My things I like:

Not having power outages every few days
Not having rampant disease outbreaks
Living in a situation where I get food, home, and clean water (though I recognize this isn't true for all)
The fact that good people can come here and make a new life
Our innovative spirit, we always come up with new and amazing ideas

phuckphace
October 20th, 2016, 05:20 PM
14. Christianity is still a big influence in the daily lives of many Americans. undoubtedly most of you will not share my enthusiasm here, however even as an atheist I find that Christianity is quite comfy, and earnest faith makes people more tolerable than they would be otherwise.

15. nicotine is fairly cheap and easier to get compared to most of the rest of the First World who have dropped the nanny-state hammer on it big time, with huge cigarette tax hikes, giant photos of cancerous lungs on the packaging, etc. it's funny how electronic cigarettes have about the legal status of crack pipes in said nanny states. I appreciate the lessened irony c.f. other countries which push radical anti-trad agendas on the populace while simultaneously finger-wagging about smoking.

16. 197 million non-Hispanic whites. now there's a Reich just waiting to happen :D

mattsmith48
October 20th, 2016, 06:08 PM
14. Christianity is still a big influence in the daily lives of many Americans. undoubtedly most of you will not share my enthusiasm here, however even as an atheist I find that Christianity is quite comfy, and earnest faith makes people more tolerable than they would be otherwise.

15. nicotine is fairly cheap and easier to get compared to most of the rest of the First World who have dropped the nanny-state hammer on it big time, with huge cigarette tax hikes, giant photos of cancerous lungs on the packaging, etc. it's funny how electronic cigarettes have about the legal status of crack pipes in said nanny states. I appreciate the lessened irony c.f. other countries which push radical anti-trad agendas on the populace while simultaneously finger-wagging about smoking.

16. 197 million non-Hispanic whites. now there's a Reich just waiting to happen :D

14-15 Members of an oppressive religion running a Secular Country and cheap way to get a cancer you can't afford to treat. Getting better at every post.

16. Could happen in less than 3 weeks

Paraxiom
October 20th, 2016, 07:53 PM
16. Could happen in less than 3 weeks

...but in an entertaining fashion, maybe! :D


That aside, I was wrong to not mention the geographic aspects of the USA's location, which ThisBougieLife reminded me about.

Babs
October 21st, 2016, 01:56 AM
Hardly any lead in our water.

Stronk Serb
October 21st, 2016, 05:49 AM
1.Tbh I think how the elections are geared towards entertainment rather than policy is a negative. Foreigners follow US elections because of how much the next US President would effect the rest of the world, as well as for entertainment.

2. Yeah English being widely spoken is good for me, an English speaker and tbh it is better for one language to be popular across many countries.

3. I don't think you know much about European law... xD If someone is trying to kill you then you can use appropriate force and try to kill them. No that does not mean shooting someone who is running away. That is a good thing.

4. Yeah free speech is good although hate speech and inciting violence is bad and should be illegal!

5. Clear islamophobia, I would feel much safer in Germany that in the US where the kids are told how to hide from a shooter and there is a mass shooting every single day and where there are guns everywhere.

6. Nothing wrong with flying a flag

7. Yeah how cheap stuff is in the US is amazing! I would have chosen homes as a better example, I believe you get 2x the area in the US than the UK for the same price!

8. The US political system is atrocious.

9. Yeah VT is epic xD

A few things I appreciate about the US

1. Contributions to the western culture
2. Contributions to science
3. The beautiful tourist locations

3. There is no such thing as universal European law. Look at Serbian law, you will be charged if you harm a burglar, let alone kill him.

5. In Germany cops have to wear chainmail to protect themselves from knife attacks which got more common with the migrant crisis. Also my friend who moved to Germany last year told me that at least in Stuttgart where she lives, she got groped and two times almost got raped.

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Also tobacco is cheaper in Serbia than in the US. 2.3$ for a Lucky Strike, 2.6$ for Marlboro. Try and beat that. Four years ago it was 1.5$ cheaper.

mattsmith48
October 21st, 2016, 07:36 AM
...but in an entertaining fashion, maybe! :D

I wonder if Germans were thinking the same way in 1933 when Hitler got to power?

TheFutureDoctor
October 21st, 2016, 07:51 AM
What about the crime rate? I'm sorry I live in India, but my my mom and some relatives who are settled in america go on and on about the guns and the crimes and whatever....

phuckphace
October 22nd, 2016, 11:09 AM
yeah the chainmail was funny (unintentional throwback to the Crusades amirite) as is the picture of a refujihadi bringing a Saracen scimitar to a gunfight

cops gunning down thugs is another thing I can appreciate about 'MURICA - sometimes for entertainment I look up dash-cam and lapel-cam videos of the thug lyfe being suddenly brought to an inglorious end, instead of ushered gingerly into a hotel-prison with high-thread count Egyptian cotton sheets and a crackling fireplace

ThisBougieLife
October 22nd, 2016, 11:17 AM
Hardly any lead in our water.

Unless you live in Michigan's decaying cities, but I'm like: Michigan? The state whose population actually goes down every year? :what:

Porpoise101
October 22nd, 2016, 04:13 PM
What about the crime rate? I'm sorry I live in India, but my my mom and some relatives who are settled in america go on and on about the guns and the crimes and whatever....
Ahh yes. In the US crime is quite low compared to India and the world even. Things like petty theft, harassment, etc are much lower than even in some European countries. Compared to the rest of the world, pick pocketing is nonexistent.

The big issue right now is that we have more violent crime (with guns usually) resulting in death. This is much higher than other countries, sure. But at the same time it is more or less concentrated in poor areas in cities, accidental fatalities, and suicides. This is not a good thing at all, but the middle class white american is more or less separated from this.
ThisBougieLife I'll have you know that the lead water issue was mostly the city's fault in Flint. They thought it would be safe to source their water from a higher-acidity river, not neutralizing it, and then piping it through old lead pipes. And lead poisoning is a huge issue in your California. Check out this map (http://www.vox.com/a/lead-exposure-risk-map).

Microcosm
October 22nd, 2016, 05:45 PM
1. America pioneered human rights such as free speech way back when. As such, how fundamental they are to our way of life is commendable. Of course, Europeans enjoy these protections as well, but in contrast to countries like China, it's something to be appreciated.
2. Our diversity continues to promote discussions of race and gender that would not have otherwise been so prevalent. Whichever side you take on them, they are important to discuss and America is just the right place to observe when discussing them.
3. We have a damn fancy Declaration of Independence; oh, and look at that Constitution (excluding 3/5 all other persons)!
4. Our national anthem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lCmBvYMRs (one of the best performances of the song of all time)
5. Our military strength is top-notch.
6. Baseball, Basketball, Volleyball.
7. The United States is the most charitable nation in the world based on how much money has been given by individuals (source (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-new-zealand-and-canada-top-list-of-world-s-most-generous-nations-a6849221.html)).

phuckphace
October 22nd, 2016, 09:35 PM
2. Our diversity continues to promote discussions of race and gender that would not have otherwise been so prevalent. Whichever side you take on them, they are important to discuss and America is just the right place to observe when discussing them.

actually a really good point - our level of diversity c.f. Europe means that such discussions are unavoidable, because there's only so much you can pretend to not notice before the cognitive dissonance morphs into full-blown schizophrenia

and of course unlike in Europe, you can notice things out loud, even doubleplusungood racial stuff without going to jail so there's that

Porpoise101
October 22nd, 2016, 10:40 PM
4. Our national anthem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lCmBvYMRs (one of the best performances of the song of all time)

Eh. I never was a real fan of it musically. It doesn't really convey the "spirit" of the nation I feel. If you want examples:
Japan's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGvMPzu5GSM) conveys the ancient-ness and reflects some folk music.
Austria's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j75-a1GmSY) conveys the serenity of the Alpine Republic and also the imperial past.
Britain's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho0PwxeO8Pk) conveys the stuffy monarchic way of Britain.

America's anthem... is about a flag? That's no good in my view. I would rather have it be about the beauty and awe of the nation, not a fabric that got shot up in Maryland.

6. Baseball, Basketball, Volleyball.

I have heard that Americans have come up with more games and leisure activities than any other nation. It's impressive.

7. The United States is the most charitable nation in the world based on how much money has been given by individuals (source (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-new-zealand-and-canada-top-list-of-world-s-most-generous-nations-a6849221.html)).

Charity is always good.

phuckphace
October 23rd, 2016, 09:22 AM
the upcoming new anthem "Amerika über alles" will mop the floor with all other anthems, especially when sung by the Trumpjugend girl's choir during the ribbon-cutting ceremony unveiling The Wall

Microcosm
October 23rd, 2016, 11:40 AM
Eh. I never was a real fan of it musically. It doesn't really convey the "spirit" of the nation I feel. If you want examples:
Japan's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGvMPzu5GSM) conveys the ancient-ness and reflects some folk music.
Austria's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j75-a1GmSY) conveys the serenity of the Alpine Republic and also the imperial past.
Britain's anthem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho0PwxeO8Pk) conveys the stuffy monarchic way of Britain.

America's anthem... is about a flag? That's no good in my view. I would rather have it be about the beauty and awe of the nation, not a fabric that got shot up in Maryland.

It's also about how America survived under some pretty horrible conditions initially, with a poor chance of survival.

"O' say does that Star-Spangled Banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?"

I see what you mean, though. I feel that our principles of everlasting freedom are more important than the beauty of our territory, but also that those principles better represent "us"

Porpoise101
October 23rd, 2016, 08:25 PM
I feel that our principles of everlasting freedom are more important than the beauty of our territory, but also that those principles better represent "us"
Fair enough. I just wish that our anthem sounded cool though... We have developed so many different musical styles in our country. It's kinda lame that the anthem doesn't express that. At least it was a cool poem in of itself.

PlasmaHam
October 24th, 2016, 07:12 AM
It's also about how America survived under some pretty horrible conditions initially, with a poor chance of survival.

"O' say does that Star-Spangled Banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?"

I see what you mean, though. I feel that our principles of everlasting freedom are more important than the beauty of our territory, but also that those principles better represent "us"

I like the anthem, the tune is a bit dull but the message behind it is strong.

I am a bit concerned though over that quote. I do not remember ever posting that quote you cited, and that certainly doesn't sound like my style of post. Would you mind telling me where you got that?

Alien djinn
October 24th, 2016, 10:26 AM
1. Foooooodd, big consistent pieces of meat , bread ,cheese and fries. Fuck healthy food, I never get fat anyway.

2. Entertainment industry. Seriously, who else does series like Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, Breaking bad... I even love the stupid but highly entertaining WWE . UFC *___* . The music etc ...

3. POWER ! Even if they made some wrong use of it (e.g. Iraq, 2003) , I admire power, and even aggressiveness.

4. Manliness compared to Euro countries. Having the right to defend yourself and to own a gun rocks.

5. Style. Nothing else to say on this

6. The language and accent. I often talk in English and I do it with an American accent ( I think I must be the best English Speaker in my town , no kidding xDD, everyone just sucks at English here).

7. Culture. Who said Americans don't own any culture ? They commonly say this here in France. But hell, we can almost say that our contemporary world and lifestyle is American. Everyone just eats McDonald's , dress American, enjoy American technology and entertainment and then say that America doesn't have any culture. Okay then just stop using computers , don't use the Internet ...

8. Good mentality and friendliness compared to European people. Well personally I don't know many Americans but like some of my friends have studied with them and they all say they are much cooler than french people, my mom started working in an American School and she says the same. But to be honest everyone seems nice compared to us French people in general xD ..

PS: I'm not a worshipper of the United States, maybe it will seem like it now, but that's because I only mentioned the good aspects here. I have also lots of negative things to say xD

Microcosm
October 24th, 2016, 05:41 PM
I like the anthem, the tune is a bit dull but the message behind it is strong.

I am a bit concerned though over that quote. I do not remember ever posting that quote you cited, and that certainly doesn't sound like my style of post. Would you mind telling me where you got that?

Sorry. Porpoise101 posted that. Both names started with a "P." Thanks for bringing it to my attention; the post has been changed.

Paraxiom
October 27th, 2016, 02:25 PM
Hardly any lead in our water.

Plenty of water issues in some areas though.


14. Christianity is still a big influence in the daily lives of many Americans. undoubtedly most of you will not share my enthusiasm here, however even as an atheist I find that Christianity is quite comfy, and earnest faith makes people more tolerable than they would be otherwise.

You may find Christian theology to be less comfy though (and more proper/real, as such theologians and related have atgued).

Have you seen Jesus Camp?

... :D ?


15. nicotine is fairly cheap and easier to get compared to most of the rest of the First World who have dropped the nanny-state hammer on it big time, with huge cigarette tax hikes, giant photos of cancerous lungs on the packaging, etc. it's funny how electronic cigarettes have about the legal status of crack pipes in said nanny states. I appreciate the lessened irony c.f. other countries which push radical anti-trad agendas on the populace while simultaneously finger-wagging about smoking.

I like how some laws oppose second-hand smoking though, which I would find very odd for you to be against.

Otherwise your country has a lot of nicotine, sure!


16. 197 million non-Hispanic whites. now there's a Reich just waiting to happen :D

I'm still hungry for you answering my question some time ago on what your great interest in nazism is all about, especially with this

the upcoming new anthem "Amerika über alles" will mop the floor with all other anthems, especially when sung by the Trumpjugend girl's choir during the ribbon-cutting ceremony unveiling The Wall

as well. :confused:


3. There is no such thing as universal European law.

There is Civil Law though.


I wonder if Germans were thinking the same way in 1933 when Hitler got to power?

I'm sure some were.


Michigan? The state whose population actually goes down every year? :what:

I have heard that Michigan is the safest US state in terms of risk of dangerous environmental events / natural disasters.

I guess some Michigans are hungry for more risky living. :P


1. America pioneered human rights such as free speech way back when. As such, how fundamental they are to our way of life is commendable. Of course, Europeans enjoy these protections as well, but in contrast to countries like China, it's something to be appreciated.

With your free speech sentiment comes an unparalleled (near) lack of epistemic responsibility though.

I find that to be very :\


I feel that our principles of everlasting freedom are more important than the beauty of our territory"

phuckphace

I know I am playing a mostly anti-appreciation role in this thread*, but it's too tempting for me to not ask how you define the 'everlasting freedom' that ye speak about having.


[*I will mostly resign as well from this thread for that reason, for the sake of most/all of us.]

Microcosm
October 27th, 2016, 04:13 PM
With your free speech sentiment comes an unparalleled (near) lack of epistemic responsibility though.

I find that to be very :\
People ought to be able to speak their minds freely no matter whether they have a concept of responsibly doing so. The requirements of such responsibility are largely subjective anyways: what you ought and ought not express.

how you define the 'everlasting freedom' that ye speak about having.Freedoms are promised by the government. This promise is maintained (hence "everlasting", this being an exaggeration of course intended to mean "for a very very long time") by making such rights fundamental to the government as part of its constitution, a change in which is very hard to get passed, and by replacing the people of power in government regularly through electoral cycles. Safe guards are in place to maintain our rights and freedom.