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Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 03:30 AM
Morning y'all! Can't sleep.

I don't know if I'd ever actually do it, but the concept of being a porn star really excites me. I love sex and I love being watched. I fantasize about it a lot. More and more lately. I really like porn already. I know the horror stories of drugs and abuse and girls who can't handle it and it ruins their lives. There are plenty of sad stories but there's gotta be plenty of success stories too. There are times where I seriously consider moving out to California (or apparently Florida where a lot of it is filmed nowadays) when I turn 18. Would any of you ever consider it? I don't think I'd ever actually do it, but I do really like the idea. Who knows.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 05:07 AM
I've actually thought about this too in a serious context of a career path but I determined it is really not worth it.

The industry is really struggling and it doesn't pay as well due to 3 main reasons the biggest being piracy, competition with webcams, and stigma and lack of legal protection.

The other big reasons are health concerns and the HIV scare the industry had a while back.

There's a documentary on youtube about that scandal.

Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 05:49 AM
Yah I'm not sure how they're making money. I'm a big fan of porn and watch a ton of it regularly on online streaming sites, and it's all free. And the std issues are definitely scary. But at the same time the thought of it really excites me anyway.

Judean Zealot
June 7th, 2016, 11:24 AM
So far as I'm aware pornographic actors are just about the most terribly abused workers in the west. I'll let phuckphace fill in the gory details.

Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 11:27 AM
So far as I'm aware pornographic actors are just about the most terribly abused workers in the west. I'll let phuckphace fill in the gory details.

Speaking strictly out of my ass, isn't it up to them to not allow themselves to be abused? Presumably they have agents or managers. No ones forcing them to do anything. I'm sure there's plenty of abuse but it can't be all bad.

Meron
June 7th, 2016, 11:28 AM
No offense but wouldn't it give us the right to call you a whore if you just wanna get pounded by random people on cam for money? Just saying.

Uranus
June 7th, 2016, 11:55 AM
No offense but wouldn't it give us the right to call you a whore if you just wanna get pounded by random people on cam for money? Just saying.

Well at least she's the one getting action.

DriveAlive
June 7th, 2016, 12:02 PM
Watch the film "When Porn Ends" to see what happens to pornstars.

Porn is an issue on which I have yet to reach a conclusion. While part of me wants to say that it is completely acceptable and no one should demonize sex, I see the disasterous effects it has on women and the criminally corrupt industry that promotes their destruction. While I watch porn regularly, I want to stop and would never recmmend that anyone go into the industry.

BrokenWingedPegasus
June 7th, 2016, 12:18 PM
Well... I don't know if it's the best thing to do. Sure, it might seem fun and all at sight, like it's just having sex and pleasure, but it's worse... think about what other good things you could do in life, and what will happen when you have to leave the industry? When people won't really think you're right for the job anymore? What would you do? I'd recommend a lot of thought before taking actions like that.

dxcxdzv
June 7th, 2016, 12:41 PM
Speaking strictly out of my ass, isn't it up to them to not allow themselves to be abused? Presumably they have agents or managers. No ones forcing them to do anything. I'm sure there's plenty of abuse but it can't be all bad.
This is not that easy. I'm not in the BTS of the porn industry but abused women a "scenes that go too far" are a reality, though you might say that if someone is being abused or subject to certain "drifts" they just have to express themselves, defend themselves or whatever, easier to say than to do, actually.

You also need to know that porn stars (particularly women) are subject to a very strong pressure on the appearance and many have to do plastic surgery, especially breasts, and often painful.

To reply to someone above (and you) the porn industry is about making "movies", "scenes", it's way different from having regular sex. You're an actor, playing a role.

Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 12:42 PM
No offense but wouldn't it give us the right to call you a whore if you just wanna get pounded by random people on cam for money? Just saying.

You have the right to call anyone anything. That's freedom of speech. But there are consequences to our actions and calling someone a whore might just get you a kick in the balls. You never know.

Watch the film "When Porn Ends" to see what happens to pornstars.

Porn is an issue on which I have yet to reach a conclusion. While part of me wants to say that it is completely acceptable and no one should demonize sex, I see the disasterous effects it has on women and the criminally corrupt industry that promotes their destruction. While I watch porn regularly, I want to stop and would never recmmend that anyone go into the industry.

I may have seen that. Or something similar. But it doesn't show what happens to porn stars. It shows what can happen to some pornstars.

Well... I don't know if it's the best thing to do. Sure, it might seem fun and all at sight, like it's just having sex and pleasure, but it's worse... think about what other good things you could do in life, and what will happen when you have to leave the industry? When people won't really think you're right for the job anymore? What would you do? I'd recommend a lot of thought before taking actions like that.

I have and do think about those things.

To be clear (I thought I was pretty clear already) it's not something I'm planning on doing for sure. The idea excites me.

-Multiple posts merged. Please use the "Edit" or "Multi-Quote" buttons in the future. -Emerald Dream.

Meron
June 7th, 2016, 01:26 PM
You have the right to call anyone anything. That's freedom of speech. But there are consequences to our actions and calling someone a whore might just get you a kick in the balls. You never know.
I get how strong you are but what you're planning to do is called "prostitution" basically and the people can simply call you a "slut" and get away with it. Just saying though.

dxcxdzv
June 7th, 2016, 01:27 PM
I get how strong you are but what you're planning to do is called "prostitution" basically and the people can simply call you a "slut" and get away with it. Just saying though.
This is not prostitution, this is acting.

Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 01:30 PM
I get how strong you are but what you're planning to do is called "prostitution" basically and the people can simply call you a "slut" and get away with it. Just saying though.

People already call me a slut. I'm okay with it.

CoolGuy108
June 7th, 2016, 01:41 PM
I dont see an issue with it as long as you have a backup plan.

You are a cute gal and im sure will have no problem landing a job. I mean for the future when you age out of the desired age that most pormstars are.

I would suggest getting a degree in something so that when you stop getting job offers from Porn companies, you can go work in business or whatever your fancy may be.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 01:50 PM
I think what is offensive about porn though, is that it really objectified women, or helps to feed that mentality to men.

Sure it's up to the individual actors to have a strong character to endure and not break, but there are those who don't really know themselves well, yet they think they do.

It's also an industry which will rate you on beauty, how dirty you'd be willing to go, and based on that that's your pay rate.

It isn't salaried, it is usually a one time chunk of cash exchanged, and yeah maybe you can refuse at first, but if you know you need a paycheck that day and can't wait for your agent to book you a new job, the "right to refuse" the work is a technical option/right, that might not be pragmatically exercised without getting blacklisted for jobs.

In some ways doing porn does have a lot of the same tone and environment as regular entertainment jobs in the mainstream like acting and photo shoots, the difference really is the fact that intimate potentially pathogenic bodily fluids are involved.

You also have to think a couple decades down the road, hypothetically say you decide to have kids despite present desires not too (ya know people arbitrarily change their mind) do you really want to put your children in a position where they're bullied because their mom or dad was a pornstar years ago?

Adults generally do tell their children not to be bullies, but I have observed adults fail to be consistent about this specific detail when they bully as well. At the very least they pass judgement and restrict who they or their children will hang out with and they do account the social hierarchy degrees of separation.

Meron
June 7th, 2016, 02:40 PM
People already call me a slut. I'm okay with it.

I'm okay with it.

I'm okay with it.
The fuck? Where your respect at?

Katie NYC
June 7th, 2016, 02:44 PM
The fuck? Where your respect at?

It's there. I respect myself enough to never end a sentence with a preposition. I'm permiscuous and I enjoy it. Name calling doesn't hurt my feelings. People can call me what they want. I'll live.

Leprous
June 7th, 2016, 02:58 PM
The fuck? Where your respect at?

It's not about respect, it's about dealing with insults and learning to ignore them. If you're okay with something people call you that doesn't mean you have no respect.

As said above me allot before, Katie NYC It's risky.

You'll be seen and treated as a sex doll. An object. A toy. It's not just sex and money, it's abuse, sex and a low paycheck.

What's behind the scenes is usually an industry that is abusive, manipulative but also hard to get out.

Meron
June 7th, 2016, 03:01 PM
It's not about respect, it's about dealing with insults and learning to ignore them. If you're okay with something people call you that doesn't mean you have no respect.

As said above me allot before, Katie NYC It's risky.

You'll be seen and treated as a sex doll. An object. A toy. It's not just sex and money, it's abuse, sex and a low paycheck.

What's behind the scenes is usually an industry that is abusive, manipulative but also hard to get out.

Not to mention that sometimes crime organizations get involved in this circle where you're at the risk of getting sold, abused and killed, forced to take drugs or becoming a slave of theirs.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 03:04 PM
I wrote you a long response with many points other than moral ones.

I wonder what you think about them as I do approach things from various points of view.

Living For Love
June 7th, 2016, 03:04 PM
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Jinglebottom
June 7th, 2016, 03:04 PM
The way they treat their "actors" must be downright dehumanizing.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 03:16 PM
Not to mention that sometimes crime organizations get involved in this circle where you're at the risk of getting sold, abused and killed, forced to take drugs or becoming a slave of theirs.

I will say that this is untrue, unless your referring to Craig's list type places.

If you want to go into a job in that industry there is a professional way of going about it to prevent stuff like you just stated.

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I think for this thread it's important to understand that within this industry.
Each company has it's own ethics and code to how they treat their workers.

Some are more brutal than others. Others are completely shady and there's no film licensing and it's some bloke with a camera waving $ at you.

Hideous
June 7th, 2016, 03:50 PM
There's no shame in doing it. Do it if you like it, and it's actually good money for a few years.

Pornstars are human beings with feelings, whether they're doing it to support themselves financially or if they have a passion for it. People shouldn't worry about what YOU want to do in life, it's not theirs to complain about.

To some people, it's okay for men to do porn and when a woman chooses to do what she wants, she gets called a slut/whore. Keep in mind that yes, you will have people calling you that, but you need to have a thick shell so none of that shit gets to you.

You go out there and do what you want. As long as you're safe and you know what you're doing.

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If you ever consider it, please do a lot of research on the porn industry and the companies. I also agree with Uniquemind.

Taryn98
June 7th, 2016, 05:19 PM
I've fantasized about doing porn and think it would be fun to do, but I wouldn't want to have to explain to my parents that I was doing it. They'd freak out (and rightfully so). That's what will likely prevent me from ever seriously doing it.
A good alternative is doing online cam shows. You can do it at home, you get to choose what you do and with whom you do it and plus you take home all the money besides the price you pay for putting your cam on a streaming site.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 05:45 PM
I've fantasized about doing porn and think it would be fun to do, but I wouldn't want to have to explain to my parents that I was doing it. They'd freak out (and rightfully so). That's what will likely prevent me from ever seriously doing it.
A good alternative is doing online cam shows. You can do it at home, you get to choose what you do and with whom you do it and plus you take home all the money besides the price you pay for putting your cam on a streaming site.

This is a good alternative, I know a LOT of my older female friends are doing this to help their college tuition that's like 18K per year (factoring in books and stuff).

The main problem is again market saturation.

There is a set quantity of men willing to pay for that stuff, and any woman will in to do that is technically competing for the same pool of revenue, which causes dilution of the market.

If you are seriously going into the business you MUST have a clear head I uninfluenced by your own internal sex drive to go into the occupation.

At the end of the day it is about the money.



Also know that these are youthful careers, once you show wrinkles your earning power goes down.

Not to mention you can't get a professional job in corporate level jobs because your face will be attached to a reputation of promiscuity, and businesses who might want to use your reputation to promote a wholesome image of the company you're interviewing for , can't use you.



TL;DR : More than thick skin is required, reputation matters professionally and matters for earning power. Thick skin is needed for the personal backlash, but there's a whole other variable if you are thinking about a business context.

The Boom
June 7th, 2016, 06:23 PM
I think all of this is just a fantasy... Just because you really enjoy porn and think about doing some doesn't mean you want to start a career. I think a lot of people considered this in the past, and they didn't become porn stars. This job is often chosen as a last resort... Girls in porn have tried many things without success... Believe me I think you are worth more than this! :)

everlong
June 7th, 2016, 06:36 PM
I think there are plenty of better jobs out there, but if it's something you really want to do, go for it. If it's something you have to do, you might as well enjoy it, right? I mean, I don't know much about the porn industry and how it deals with sexually transmitted diseases and whatnot, that's something you'd have to research and figure out yourself. But if you really want to, I don't see why not.

Taryn98
June 7th, 2016, 07:04 PM
This is a good alternative, I know a LOT of my older female friends are doing this to help their college tuition that's like 18K per year (factoring in books and stuff).

The main problem is again market saturation.

There is a set quantity of men willing to pay for that stuff, and any woman will in to do that is technically competing for the same pool of revenue, which causes dilution of the market.

If you are seriously going into the business you MUST have a clear head I uninfluenced by your own internal sex drive to go into the occupation.

At the end of the day it is about the money.



Also know that these are youthful careers, once you show wrinkles your earning power goes down.

Not to mention you can't get a professional job in corporate level jobs because your face will be attached to a reputation of promiscuity, and businesses who might want to use your reputation to promote a wholesome image of the company you're interviewing for , can't use you.



TL;DR : More than thick skin is required, reputation matters professionally and matters for earning power. Thick skin is needed for the personal backlash, but there's a whole other variable if you are thinking about a business context.

All valid points.

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 07:57 PM
Let me also add that if you are in porn there will be guys who will LEAVE you or cease to be with you.

Being politically correct, society will say that "you'll find someone right for you that accepts you for who you are" but ultimately you are still left with a situation where you will might have to endure a painful loss of someone whom you really truly love.

Will you survive that? Is this a problem for you, maybe it's not maybe your the type of person that gives no cares and can be a free spirit like that. Sure more power to ya, but understand what you're getting yourself into at all levels.


If it's a fantasy and that's why the idea is luring you in, then just keep a dirty journal or something.


Maybe this is extraneous information beyond this point, but I write my own x rated stories to get my brain's temptation's scratched without having any real danger in real life. I don't share or publish them but they are for my own stimulation and I can add as much personification and realism with fantasy that works just as well.

Sailor Mars
June 7th, 2016, 08:46 PM
No offense but wouldn't it give us the right to call you a whore if you just wanna get pounded by random people on cam for money? Just saying.

Nothing gives you the right to call someone that.

To OP, as long as you're safe and you know what you're doing, there isn't any problem with it. Do what you want and as you see fit. It's ur life so don't pay attention to ppl who try to shit on you.

phuckphace
June 7th, 2016, 11:04 PM
There's no shame in doing it.

this what millennials ACTUALLY believe.txt


imagine being a parent in the current year and finding out that your estranged daughter gets railed by an endless procession of strangers on camera for a couple grand a pop (and spends most of her earnings on heroin). I'd be asking myself so many questions, like "why didn't I get a vasectomy instead?" while tying the noose around my neck.

my advice to OP is to follow your dreams. the horror stories were clearly invented by sexually repressed prudes, don't listen to them.

Sailor Mars
June 7th, 2016, 11:19 PM
this what millennials ACTUALLY believe.txt


imagine being a parent in the current year and finding out that your estranged daughter gets railed by an endless procession of strangers on camera for a couple grand a pop (and spends most of her earnings on heroin). I'd be asking myself so many questions, like "why didn't I get a vasectomy instead?" while tying the noose around my neck.

my advice to OP is to follow your dreams. the horror stories were clearly invented by sexually repressed prudes, don't listen to them.

jokes on you, your parents wouldn't find out because everyone knows parents don't have sex or watch porn

Moriya
June 8th, 2016, 12:19 AM
Morning y'all! Can't sleep.

I don't know if I'd ever actually do it, but the concept of being a porn star really excites me. I love sex and I love being watched. I fantasize about it a lot. More and more lately. I really like porn already. I know the horror stories of drugs and abuse and girls who can't handle it and it ruins their lives. There are plenty of sad stories but there's gotta be plenty of success stories too. There are times where I seriously consider moving out to California (or apparently Florida where a lot of it is filmed nowadays) when I turn 18. Would any of you ever consider it? I don't think I'd ever actually do it, but I do really like the idea. Who knows.

[-]You do you, I guess. Just be careful, and think this [potentially] permanent decision thoroughly.

Would I do it? Never. Too body shy, face be an instant boner killer, germophobe, and I heard the food there's horrible.[/-]

Nvm don't fall into the trap.

LanaPole
June 8th, 2016, 12:47 AM
I don't watch too much porn (i think). my bestie watch a lot more, but honestly i thought about being in one and it's definitely a turn on. i do enjoy attention from guys. Maybe i'll see when I'm 18.

Uniquemind
June 8th, 2016, 12:49 AM
To be honest, my personal opinion of promiscuity and things that market promiscuity in a positive light, is due to the fact that promiscuity allows biological pathogens to persist to exist and plague the human race.

That is really my primary concern of why I don't like it, because it seems to me that during one or two sexual encounters, a bareback or some type of sexual act/method is tried among the participants which allows pathogens to be traded among human bodies and spread to the next generation.

In that sense that's my main problem with porn and promiscuity. What does everyone think about this angle regarding this topic?

Uranus
June 8th, 2016, 01:20 AM
So much debate and conflict over some banging. Wow. Is it jealousy why some of you are losing your sleep over this? I see nothing wrong with this. What's wrong with having some fun? Overall its not that life threatening, and a lot of porn stars don't even have any diseases whatsoever even though they fuck on a daily to weekly basis. With more than one partner. Why does it matter whether someone wants that career, it ain't your business and it ain't your body. What's next? Strippers? Hell, even revealing clothing? Or just messing around with random people because it's the same logic as having respect for yourself. I guess I can't do shit then, ima have to be a gentleman and marry a girl before I get any action or I'll be a manwhore.
So what? If she wants to, that's her choice. I see no reason whatsoever to call her a slut or shame her for her choice. Hell it's better than a shitty job at McDonald's so props to her. There's a lot worse decisions for career choices that go untalked about, yet we complain bout someone else getting some fun. awkward

phuckphace
June 8th, 2016, 02:17 AM
a "career" in porn is actually one of the worst life decisions it's possible to make. there is ample evidence that it's far from "fun" or "rewarding" - pornography is intrinsically exploitative at best. another angle to consider is the type of person who is drawn to this "career choice" - healthy and well adjusted individuals who weren't molested from a young age will find the idea repulsive.

it matters exceedingly what choices others make when their choices reflect the aggregate moral decline of our society. that's probably a meaningless point to most posters ITT, but we're all atomized millennials here so that's to be expected.

men who enter porn are as equally degenerate and deserving of shame and mockery as women are.

Uniquemind
June 8th, 2016, 02:18 AM
So much debate and conflict over some banging. Wow. Is it jealousy why some of you are losing your sleep over this? I see nothing wrong with this. What's wrong with having some fun? Overall its not that life threatening, and a lot of porn stars don't even have any diseases whatsoever even though they fuck on a daily to weekly basis. With more than one partner. Why does it matter whether someone wants that career, it ain't your business and it ain't your body. What's next? Strippers? Hell, even revealing clothing? Or just messing around with random people because it's the same logic as having respect for yourself. I guess I can't do shit then, ima have to be a gentleman and marry a girl before I get any action or I'll be a manwhore.
So what? If she wants to, that's her choice. I see no reason whatsoever to call her a slut or shame her for her choice. Hell it's better than a shitty job at McDonald's so props to her. There's a lot worse decisions for career choices that go untalked about, yet we complain bout someone else getting some fun. awkward

I could make a case that it is to some degree other people business because:

1. It affects the collective health of a species.

2. It affects the types of people you associate with if such a strip club establishment were to pop up, due to how economics works and how neighborhoods impact home values.

Katie NYC
June 8th, 2016, 03:14 AM
I've fantasized about doing porn and think it would be fun to do, but I wouldn't want to have to explain to my parents that I was doing it. They'd freak out (and rightfully so). That's what will likely prevent me from ever seriously doing it.
A good alternative is doing online cam shows. You can do it at home, you get to choose what you do and with whom you do it and plus you take home all the money besides the price you pay for putting your cam on a streaming site.

I'd watch your cam show.

Vlerchan
June 8th, 2016, 03:41 AM
What's wrong with having some fun?
In this case - having it on your résumé for the rest of your life.

Sex work places massive constraints on ones professional life post-porn. Even if one can find a decent job, advancement is sure to be bounded. That porn also aims to recruit the 18 - 25 demographic means that human capital potential (i.e. educational potential) is also hurt bad.

It will also without-a-doubt hurt ones non-professional life.

Opting into porn more-or-less acts to frontload welfare*. Teenagers that can't imagine being 30 might give it a thought - but most of the rest of us realise that in the long-run it bodes horrible.

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* For the luckier woman. For a lot it's no life of luxeries.

HououinKiyoma
June 8th, 2016, 01:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that studying for a couple of years will land you a lot more money than being a porn star.

Katie NYC
June 8th, 2016, 01:51 PM
I'm pretty sure that studying for a couple of years will land you a lot more money than being a porn star.

Tell that to the millions of twenty somethings with masters degrees who are working shit jobs for shit money trying desperately to pay off their student loans.
(I plan on going to college)

In all liklihood I won't try to be a porn star. I was just talking about considering it. It's really more of a fantasy than an actual plan.

Flapjack
June 8th, 2016, 02:28 PM
No offense but wouldn't it give us the right to call you a whore if you just wanna get pounded by random people on cam for money? Just saying.
Wtf it is her body? She can do what she likes with it, stop judging women on how they express their sexuality.

Morning y'all! Can't sleep.

I don't know if I'd ever actually do it, but the concept of being a porn star really excites me. I love sex and I love being watched. I fantasize about it a lot. More and more lately. I really like porn already. I know the horror stories of drugs and abuse and girls who can't handle it and it ruins their lives. There are plenty of sad stories but there's gotta be plenty of success stories too. There are times where I seriously consider moving out to California (or apparently Florida where a lot of it is filmed nowadays) when I turn 18. Would any of you ever consider it? I don't think I'd ever actually do it, but I do really like the idea. Who knows.
If you want to then do it, but for now study hard so it is not your only option. Also think of the long term, there is not a lot of work for older women and how will you explain it to the family?

Uniquemind
June 8th, 2016, 02:44 PM
Tell that to the millions of twenty somethings with masters degrees who are working shit jobs for shit money trying desperately to pay off their student loans.
(I plan on going to college)

In all liklihood I won't try to be a porn star. I was just talking about considering it. It's really more of a fantasy than an actual plan.


It depends on what you have your masters degree in.


Most jobs nowadays that pay well will require STEM, meaning science and engineering jobs. Meaning one must study math and science to get those skills.

Lots of people don't want to do that.

Katie NYC
June 8th, 2016, 02:48 PM
It depends on what you have your masters degree in.


Most jobs nowadays that pay well will require STEM, meaning science and engineering jobs. Meaning one must study math and science to get those skills.

Lots of people don't want to do that.

I agree. But lots of people are going to college and getting degrees that get them no where. Specialized education towards a specific field that requires it is a different matter.

SethfromMI
June 8th, 2016, 02:55 PM
I would not recommend men or women going into the porn. depending what else you may want to do in your career, if they find out you have been in porn it could end those chances. plus, you hear tons of bad stories from people in the industry. at the end of the day it is your choice, but it is not the career I would recommend pursuing

Vlerchan
June 8th, 2016, 03:40 PM
Compulsory reminder, those with a Masters degree (http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm) earn about twice as much as those with no degree at all, on average, and have an unemployment rate of 2.4% (That's basically just frictional unemployment).

There's is no better average return on investment than that associated with a college education.

Sure, some people don't have jobs, but those still happen to be in a significantly better position when it comes to finding one, than those without a degree.

Uniquemind
June 8th, 2016, 08:00 PM
I agree. But lots of people are going to college and getting degrees that get them no where. Specialized education towards a specific field that requires it is a different matter.

So then the question becomes "is it the degree's fault, or that individual person's fault for not connecting the dots between their education and their career?"

I know liberal arts degrees land a lot of people in the position where you are in, jobless with a degree and student debt.


So the solution is to chase another degree in an area the job market is hot in.


EDIT: so back to the original post I found a old article I read from Fortune magazine regarding working in the industry.

It addresses both men and women and has an interview with a former porn star.




I will also post a video below about the STD scandal that almost ended the porn industry. (WARNING: it is extremely graphic with nudity, but it is relevant to this topic, and it is educational and it is a youtube documentary already publicly available and depending on the school district this MIGHT meet educational standards, therefore it may or may not break forum rules. Mods will have to decide...

Katie NYC
June 9th, 2016, 03:21 AM
So then the question becomes "is it the degree's fault, or that individual person's fault for not connecting the dots between their education and their career?"

I know liberal arts degrees land a lot of people in the position where you are in, jobless with a degree and student debt.


So the solution is to chase another degree in an area the job market is hot in.


EDIT: so back to the original post I found a old article I read from Fortune magazine regarding working in the industry.

It addresses both men and women and has an interview with a former porn star.

Do not skim read, read every word and sentence.


http://fortune.com/2016/02/05/this-is-what-its-really-like-to-work-in-porn/


I will also post a video below about the STD scandal that almost ended the porn industry.
This is getting repetitive. I'm well aware of the dangers of the porn business and it's more of a fantasy than a legitimate career path. I thought I made that clear. A couple of times actually.

HououinKiyoma
June 9th, 2016, 03:30 AM
Tell that to the millions of twenty somethings with masters degrees who are working shit jobs for shit money trying desperately to pay off their student loans.
(I plan on going to college)

In all liklihood I won't try to be a porn star. I was just talking about considering it. It's really more of a fantasy than an actual plan.

Well, that's the fault of your country's education system.

Uniquemind
June 9th, 2016, 03:31 AM
This is getting repetitive. I'm well aware of the dangers of the porn business and it's more of a fantasy than a legitimate career path. I thought I made that clear. A couple of times actually.

Sorry I'll just make a new post of my own then.

ClaraWho
June 9th, 2016, 01:58 PM
Well at least she's the one getting action.

Any chimp with genitals can find another chimp to have meaningless sex with it.

This is not prostitution, this is acting.

You're being sarcastic right? I mean you do know what the word 'prostitution' means right?

This is getting repetitive. I'm well aware of the dangers of the porn business and it's more of a fantasy than a legitimate career path. I thought I made that clear. A couple of times actually.

Well what was the point of making a topic asking people there opinion on working as a prostitute? O.o

Either you've changed your original position and therefore you should ask the thread be locked - OR you asked the wrong question.

In which case start a new thread saying 'I get off thinking about being paid for sex and filmed, does anyone else?'

To the OP as someone who hasn't been abused herself, to blame the victim for 'not being strong enough' is disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself. May I suggest politely you haven't a single idea what you are talking about, and that to abuse/rape survivors those words are extremely harmful. Think before you speak, go read the abuse forum here and educate yourself, but don't post that rubbish there.

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Most posters here are expressing opinions from a standpoint of complete naïvety. Seriously people. Google is your friend.

I've actually researched this in depth to argue against the watching and consequent funding of the industry. I'd post links but this thread may be locked - we'll see if Uniquemind makes a thread. Just some quick bullet points though from interviews with ex-pornstars/producers.

- 90% of porn workers have STI's. That's massive. As UniqueMind says it contributes to the continuation and spread of these often life altering infections.

- Anecdotal reports state that most workers, including those associated with production, drink or use drugs excessively. It's often the only way of coping.

- the shelf-life of a female in porn is 1 1/2 years. Once you have made a handful of the 'vanilla' variety, the audience is bored of watching you being screwed. They want some new, fresh faced girl. In order to continue working you then have to move into more and more hardcore scenarios. There's an interview of an ex-porn 'actor' where she talks about having to stop the sex scene because she felt dizzy from being punched too hard in the face.

- you get no royalties and the money per scene isn't very high ($1500 for a scene but they are irregular and unreliable income). Most workers subsidise there work with strip clubs, escorting (more glorified prostitution).

- after 1 1/2 yrs you're done and good luck finding a job in the industry outside of a strip club or brothel. That's where most end up. And you can easily Google the horror stories of that scene.

- whilst you think you get to have a decision over what happens to your body, you don't. Those women you get off over do exactly what the director wants, the client wants, because if you don't - you don't work again. The industry blacklists you as being 'difficult' and hires another vulnerable young girl to take your place.

- This is a multi-million pound industry, but you're not the one seeing that money, the guy telling you to let the male use you is.

- the industry for guys is extremely different, as are the reasons behind it. Thus a distinction has to be made.

Basically in porn you're a piece of meat and they'll do whatever they want to you, or you're done.

~ Clara

dxcxdzv
June 9th, 2016, 02:35 PM
You're being sarcastic right? I mean you do know what the word 'prostitution' means right?

Yes, I know. And I wasn't being sarcastic.

Katie NYC
June 9th, 2016, 02:37 PM
To the OP as someone who hasn't been abused herself, to blame the victim for 'not being strong enough' is disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself. May I suggest politely you haven't a single idea what you are talking about, and that to abuse/rape survivors those words are extremely harmful. Think before you speak, go read the abuse forum here and educate yourself, but don't post that rubbish there.
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Huh?

Meron
June 9th, 2016, 02:53 PM
Can this topic be locked already? I see no relevant nor mature discussion here.

Leprous
June 9th, 2016, 03:00 PM
To me it just seems like OP doesn't want to see the massive list of problems here. It's a vicious industry that's never letting you go happily.

ClaraWho , Reise is right here. They are actors, nothing more. A prostitute is being paid to have sex with a certain person, that certain person pays the prostitute. A pprnstar does not get paid by the guy they have sex with. They get paid a small amount of money by their boss. The guy that got them into the business and the same guy that will let any guy do whatever they want with her.

I'm not saying prostitution is the safest job out there, but it's probably safer than the porn industry.

Katie NYC
June 9th, 2016, 03:12 PM
To me it just seems like OP doesn't want to see the massive list of problems here. It's a vicious industry that's never letting you go happily.

ClaraWho , Reise is right here. They are actors, nothing more. A prostitute is being paid to have sex with a certain person, that certain person pays the prostitute. A pprnstar does not get paid by the guy they have sex with. They get paid a small amount of money by their boss. The guy that got them into the business and the same guy that will let any guy do whatever they want with her.

I'm not saying prostitution is the safest job out there, but it's probably safer than the porn industry.
It's not that I don't want to see the list, it's that I already have.

Cadanance00
June 9th, 2016, 03:37 PM
I just think it's one of the all around worst ideas I've heard.

ClaraWho
June 9th, 2016, 03:45 PM
To me it just seems like OP doesn't want to see the massive list of problems here. It's a vicious industry that's never letting you go happily.

ClaraWho , Reise is right here. They are actors, nothing more. A prostitute is being paid to have sex with a certain person, that certain person pays the prostitute. A pprnstar does not get paid by the guy they have sex with. They get paid a small amount of money by their boss. The guy that got them into the business and the same guy that will let any guy do whatever they want with her.

I'm not saying prostitution is the safest job out there, but it's probably safer than the porn industry.

I figure if we draw enough attention to this thread the mods will see all the talk of wanting it locked, so I'll offer a quick rebuttal.

The two are analogous. The boss is 'pimping' out the girl for sex, she is getting paid by said boss to perform a sexual act or act in a sexual way. Notice the word act simply stands for action I.e. Interaction.

A lot of shady companies pay for prostitutes for their senior clients (think rap industry). Prostitution is being paid for sex, regardless of whom is picking up the bill.

As much as it is picking between being stabbed or shot, at least porn is down in a crowded room with the directors control (however brutal that may be), vs some strange sex offender in a private room or their own house.

It's all horrific.

Huh?

*facepalm*

So you've got your answer and you want the thread closed. The OP has to request it. Hit the red 'report' triangle in your post and leave the message.

~ Clara

Katie NYC
June 9th, 2016, 03:56 PM
I figure if we draw enough attention to this thread the mods will see all the talk of wanting it locked, so I'll offer a quick rebuttal.

The two are analogous. The boss is 'pimping' out the girl for sex, she is getting paid by said boss to perform a sexual act or act in a sexual way. Notice the word act simply stands for action I.e. Interaction.

A lot of shady companies pay for prostitutes for their senior clients (think rap industry). Prostitution is being paid for sex, regardless of whom is picking up the bill.

As much as it is picking between being stabbed or shot, at least porn is down in a crowded room with the directors control (however brutal that may be), vs some strange sex offender in a private room or their own house.

It's all horrific.



*facepalm*

So you've got your answer and you want the thread closed. The OP has to request it. Hit the red 'report' triangle in your post and leave the message.

~ Clara
Dude, you said I was blaming the victims of abuse. That's what I said "huh" to. What are you talking about?

Cadanance00
June 9th, 2016, 04:13 PM
My aunt danced in a strip club about the time I was born. She says it's all about exploitation. The girls seldom walk away with much money and most of them have boyfriends or drug habits to support. Same with porn industry. Do they look like they're having fun?

Leprous
June 10th, 2016, 12:21 AM
Dude, you said I was blaming the victims of abuse. That's what I said "huh" to. What are you talking about?

Yeah actually who mentioned locking it ClaraWho? I only saw 1 guy asking for it and that's it. Also how is she blaming anyone?

mahony0509
June 10th, 2016, 02:17 AM
You can do what you want. Nobody else here has any say really. Make a decision, it won't effect any of us.

TheFutureDoctor
June 30th, 2016, 06:00 AM
Wouldnt really recommend it to you. Pornstars are abused as said, and also have to go on drugs or something to maintain a figure. There was a movie about that in my country I think. Also, after 40, no one is gonna take you, so you'll have to leave. And when you leave, people will never let you rest, and keep unearthing the past. They'll never ever respect you. Im speaking after seeing what is happening with Sunny Leone lately. She left porn and came to india to act in films, but is critisized and boycotted for her past. Although, I do feel that is bad, you can't stop people pointing fingers at you. It will be very tough.

But hey, I think it would be fun. I mean c'mon, you get paid to fuck!! I did think about it but only a short while.

PaleBoy
June 30th, 2016, 03:37 PM
Nowadays being a cam performer is actually more lucrative and less of a bummer

FuTo
June 30th, 2016, 04:29 PM
Wouldnt really recommend it to you. Pornstars are abused as said, and also have to go on drugs or something to maintain a figure. There was a movie about that in my country I think. Also, after 40, no one is gonna take you, so you'll have to leave. And when you leave, people will never let you rest, and keep unearthing the past. They'll never ever respect you. Im speaking after seeing what is happening with Sunny Leone lately. She left porn and came to india to act in films, but is critisized and boycotted for her past. Although, I do feel that is bad, you can't stop people pointing fingers at you. It will be very tough.

But hey, I think it would be fun. I mean c'mon, you get paid to fuck!! I did think about it but only a short while.

Lol I laugh at the fact of society. Especially at the men who watches porn but calls women who appears in it whores and such.

You do you. I'm also considering it too. I mean its a job like any other.

TheFutureDoctor
July 1st, 2016, 08:44 AM
Lol I laugh at the fact of society. Especially at the men who watches porn but calls women who appears in it whores and such.

You do you. I'm also considering it too. I mean its a job like any other.

Didnt quite get your last line though. And you said exactly what i wanted to say. :)

jamie_n5
July 10th, 2016, 08:07 PM
I like looking at porn and enjoy a lot of it. I can't imagine myself doing it though. I am not an overly modest guy but I do like my sexual life to be private for the most part. I have masturbated with other guys but I like to be just me and my partner for sex.

sara___
July 11th, 2016, 11:07 PM
I don't see myself as a porn queen any time soon

insanity.
July 12th, 2016, 12:23 AM
Well you have to consider all the risks of it first, but tons of people have said that already. Whatever you choose to do, it's your life and you get to decide, but I wouldn't recommend it, personally.

mutantboy
August 2nd, 2016, 03:38 AM
I don't think it will be funny: it is a job, not just a sex session you do as you like. You must do all they ask, stop when they ask, be exciting whrn they ask, do it as many times as they ask. I don't think it's funny...

ValentinClarke
August 2nd, 2016, 04:08 AM
Morning y'all! Can't sleep.

I don't know if I'd ever actually do it, but the concept of being a porn star really excites me. I love sex and I love being watched. I fantasize about it a lot. More and more lately. I really like porn already. I know the horror stories of drugs and abuse and girls who can't handle it and it ruins their lives. There are plenty of sad stories but there's gotta be plenty of success stories too. There are times where I seriously consider moving out to California (or apparently Florida where a lot of it is filmed nowadays) when I turn 18. Would any of you ever consider it? I don't think I'd ever actually do it, but I do really like the idea. Who knows.

Being a porn star is a very tiring job, it's not just intercourse and orgasming. It's a director telling you where to lie, how to lie what to look like, what position, taking breaks so the guy doesn't ejaculate straight away. There's a lot into it. Make sure to do your research