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presh jasper
June 3rd, 2016, 03:42 PM
It was a Friday night ,we all went out for camping so my twin bro went to his frnds tent so i was asleep suddenly him nd his best frnd entered just to check on me then my bro went out so out or dizziness i was completely down so my bros bff pulled my underwear off nd undressed himself nd forced himself on me(you might ask why didn't i ward him off? Cuz i was handcuffed) and had sex with me . Was dat rape? And i really want to tell my twin about dis hw do i do dat without breaking their friendship?

ValentinClarke
June 3rd, 2016, 03:45 PM
It was a Friday night ,we all went out for camping so my twin bro went to his frnds tent so i was asleep suddenly him nd his best frnd entered just to check on me then my bro went out so out or dizziness i was completely down so my bros bff pulled my underwear off nd undressed himself nd forced himself on me(you might ask why didn't i ward him off? Cuz i was handcuffed) and had sex with me . Was dat rape? And i really want to tell my twin about dis hw do i do dat without breaking their friendship?
If you did not give consent, or were not in a state to give consent, it is rape. Their friendship should be broken if he is a rapist.

birdbrain01
June 3rd, 2016, 03:49 PM
I would say it depends on if you enjoyed it or not. If you really didn't want him to do it you probably would have said something to him. I wouldn't say anything to your brother I would probably say something to the guy that did it

ska8er
June 3rd, 2016, 06:31 PM
What started with the cufflinks? Were they forced
put on u-or did u ok them? If u were overpowered
and u did not ok anything-it was rape. I would not
talk to ur Bros friend but would tell ur Bro what
happened that night-let him b the judge.

hairy balls
June 3rd, 2016, 08:15 PM
if you didn't give consent it is rape and why were you handcuffed ? yes I would tell your brother and at 15 you should tell your parents . maybe even the police this time it was a guy 15 next time who knows he needs to get some help .

Living For Love
June 4th, 2016, 04:59 AM
Puberty For Boys :arrow2: Abuse

Hermes
June 4th, 2016, 05:22 AM
Yes, if it was without consent then it's rape. If you feel like telling your twin, or an adult you trust, I think you should go ahead.

Bull
June 4th, 2016, 05:27 AM
This is difficult to respond as there seems to be many missing details. Were drugs/alcohol involved? Why were you handcuffed? Did you tell him to stop? Did you cry out in pain? Were you enjoying what was happening while it happened? I don't know, maybe you were raped, maybe not.

Cadanance00
June 4th, 2016, 02:43 PM
I'm sorry, this doesn't sound real coherent.

Just JT
June 4th, 2016, 03:15 PM
I'm sorry, this doesn't sound real coherent.


I agree

There's a lot to this really. Sexual abuse is a big deal, trust me, I no
But you should really consider some things, did you give consent?
If no, it's rape
Did you say no?
If yes, it's rape
Were you willingly handcuffed?
If no, then that's illegal to I just don't know what to call it right now
Was your bro in on it?
If yes, then he's a part of it
Did you like it?
If you did, does NOT mean it's NOT rape, because it still could

I'd give some of that a chewing and spit it back out at us ok?

I would say it depends on if you enjoyed it or not. If you really didn't want him to do it you probably would have said something to him. I wouldn't say anything to your brother I would probably say something to the guy that did it

Just because you enjoyed someone sexually stimulating you, does not mean you welcomed it, and CAN in fact, DOES constitute rape, if you did not consent, and not want it done. Enjoying it, and wanting it and welcoming it, are all not the same and interchangeable

FuTo
June 4th, 2016, 06:07 PM
I would say it depends on if you enjoyed it or not. If you really didn't want him to do it you probably would have said something to him. I wouldn't say anything to your brother I would probably say something to the guy that did it

Lol even if he enjoyed it it would still be considered rape. His brother's friend "forced" himself meaning he didnt give consent that is rape.

It was a Friday night ,we all went out for camping so my twin bro went to his frnds tent so i was asleep suddenly him nd his best frnd entered just to check on me then my bro went out so out or dizziness i was completely down so my bros bff pulled my underwear off nd undressed himself nd forced himself on me(you might ask why didn't i ward him off? Cuz i was handcuffed) and had sex with me . Was dat rape? And i really want to tell my twin about dis hw do i do dat without breaking their friendship?

I suggest you talk to your brothers friend and ask why he did that. I'd also suggest you talking to an adult or your brother. Your brothers friend will get into alot of trouble for doing that to you so think about your actions and how you want to approach things.

Just JT
June 4th, 2016, 06:23 PM
I suggest you talk to your brothers friend and ask why he did that. I'd also suggest you talking to an adult or your brother. Your brothers friend will get into alot of trouble for doing that to you so think about your actions and how you want to approach things.


Well, if this was rape, tbh, I'm not so sure him confronting his abuser is all that a great idea. Even talking to his brother, I'd say he might of even been a part of it

If he's guna tell someone about this irl, which he should in my opinion (regardless of how he feels about it) should be A trusting adult

Uranus
June 4th, 2016, 09:42 PM
Honestly how this post was written, makes me think its just a joke (the post, not the alleged incident, and like. Billy said, MANY missing details)and trying to get noticed here on VT. However, if it's legit, yes it is rape and whoever did it should be punished by law and you would need to get help, and get tested for any diseases.

FuTo
June 4th, 2016, 09:42 PM
Well, if this was rape, tbh, I'm not so sure him confronting his abuser is all that a great idea. Even talking to his brother, I'd say he might of even been a part of it

If he's guna tell someone about this irl, which he should in my opinion (regardless of how he feels about it) should be A trusting adult

I guess you are right and tbh I have trouble telling adults about my problems and I can see why hes hesitant about telling people he was raped after all it is a horrid experience.

Just JT
June 4th, 2016, 09:46 PM
Honestly how this post was written, makes me think its just a joke (the post, not the alleged incident, and like. Billy said, MANY missing details)and trying to get noticed here on VT. However, if it's legit, yes it is rape and whoever did it should be punished by law and you would need to get help, and get tested for any diseases.

I agree, well said.

I guess you are right and tbh I have trouble telling adults about my problems and I can see why hes hesitant about telling people he was raped after all it is a horrid experience.

Absolutely, from experience, it is, very difficult to talk about, but it does good, if it's tue

Uranus
June 5th, 2016, 01:19 AM
I agree, well said.


Thanks ;) :bigsmile:

Uniquemind
June 7th, 2016, 02:36 PM
l'll be blunt and approach this post in two ways:

1. Serious context : This was no doubt rape.

2. Skeptical context : This looks like storytelling to me because of the way the post was written and lack of details.

Living For Love
June 8th, 2016, 08:42 AM
Mod note: bashing and insulting other members is strictly prohibited. Some posts have been deleted.

zack.zack
June 8th, 2016, 08:47 AM
If you did not give consent, or were not in a state to give consent, it is rape. Their friendship should be broken if he is a rapist.

Consent is the main word here, if you were in no position or did not give any then it was against your will, especially if you were incapacitated. Your brother needs to be made aware of what transpired and he should end the friendship.

Vlerchan
June 19th, 2016, 11:02 AM
I would say it depends on if you enjoyed it or not. If you really didn't want him to do it you probably would have said something to him.
I feel it should be emphasised that this is entirely irrelevant as to whether or not it was rape. Submission does not entail consent and this has been recognised in the law for decades (re: R v Olugboja [1982] for the British and Irish authority).

If you didn't consent, it was rape.

jamie_n5
July 1st, 2016, 10:00 PM
I wish you were more clear about the whole thing. Who handcuffed you and what all went on. You are not at all clear on anything.

Devinsoccer
July 1st, 2016, 10:06 PM
It was a Friday night ,we all went out for camping so my twin bro went to his frnds tent so i was asleep suddenly him nd his best frnd entered just to check on me then my bro went out so out or dizziness i was completely down so my bros bff pulled my underwear off nd undressed himself nd forced himself on me(you might ask why didn't i ward him off? Cuz i was handcuffed) and had sex with me . Was dat rape? And i really want to tell my twin about dis hw do i do dat without breaking their friendship?

Yes it was rape. Three resons why. Your under the age of consent, so even if you said yes, its still rape. You didn't even consent, so another reason. And you were forced, which is rape.

maria_556
July 28th, 2016, 04:25 AM
Why should your twin have a friend like him? Tell to your bro soon!

presh jasper
September 11th, 2016, 06:13 PM
Hey hey guys . For those of u who tink it wasn't real . Ur wrong ok, well I've told my bro about everything dat happened dat night . And the guy nd my bro got into a fight ;i feel somewhat guilty for dat. My dad Toke me to d hospital to run some tests thanks guys for ur support, advice ,all nd all

I wish you were more clear about the whole thing. Who handcuffed you and what all went on. You are not at all clear on anything.

my bro frend did nd well its hard to say . How it happened was , dat i was dizzy sleepy so he use d opportunity to get it around my arms den wen i realised to was too late i was screamin bt a cloth was in my month ,i Practically begged him to stop bt he wouldn't

Double post merged ~ ImCoolBeans

Karkat
September 11th, 2016, 08:40 PM
This was definitely rape. Rape has nothing to do with whether you liked it or not- rape means someone forcibly had sex with you without your consent, or continued to have sex with you after you've said you don't want to anymore.

I'm pretty disappointed in some of these posts. That being said, I guess it just means that consent needs to be something that's taught to people more.

jamie_n5
September 12th, 2016, 12:04 PM
Yes then you were violently raped. You should report this to the police man.

jxxx_z
September 12th, 2016, 06:11 PM
Yes it was
I'm so sorry to hear about this

rhapsap
September 12th, 2016, 10:55 PM
I would say it depends on if you enjoyed it or not. If you really didn't want him to do it you probably would have said something to him. I wouldn't say anything to your brother I would probably say something to the guy that did it

This is idiotic advice. Enjoying unwanted sexual activity is rape. Just because a woman doesn't 'say' anything doesn't mean it's wanted activity. It can be a terrifying experience and a woman isn't necessarily going to feel safe speaking out at the time.

Godsdaughter
October 20th, 2016, 10:06 PM
1. Yes, this was rape and you should report him immediately.
2. Why the heck were you handcuffed?!

Just JT
October 22nd, 2016, 07:48 AM
Hey hey guys . For those of u who tink it wasn't real . Ur wrong ok, well I've told my bro about everything dat happened dat night . And the guy nd my bro got into a fight ;i feel somewhat guilty for dat. My dad Toke me to d hospital to run some tests thanks guys for ur support, advice ,all nd all



my bro frend did nd well its hard to say . How it happened was , dat i was dizzy sleepy so he use d opportunity to get it around my arms den wen i realised to was too late i was screamin bt a cloth was in my month ,i Practically begged him to stop bt he wouldn't

Double post merged ~ ImCoolBeans

Well I'm happy for you for standing up for yourself, that took a lot of courage. And you should be proud of yourself for that. As far as your brother and his friend fighting, that parts between them, and if I were you, I'd probably keep out of that even when it does involve you. You got other shit to deal with. But, you should not feel guilty or responsible for what happened between them. That's what I call natural consequences. The guy who raped you, he's the one who should feel guilty and responsible. He caused all this

I'm glad your dad got you the medical help you needed. I hope he gets it that there's more than medical attention you'll probably need.

Cecilia254
November 17th, 2016, 04:40 AM
It's entirely irrelevant!

niklas
November 24th, 2016, 05:56 PM
I'm no expert, but that definitely sounds like rape. I hope you got some help.

BryGuy
January 13th, 2017, 03:35 PM
Sounds like rape to me