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Gumleaf
May 29th, 2016, 06:39 AM
I've had a thought. Perhaps a system could be set up where members who are possibly older or are experienced from things in their own life, such as having had depression for example, could mentor members who are currently experiencing the same thing. Another variation of this idea is that people could have accountability partners. So two people going through similar things could have regular communication to encourage each other and be accountable. So by setting this up in a somewhat formal way might help people not feel alone or isolated with their stuff in their life. People often post and get replies, but more often than not, that's where things stop. You'd obviously have to have some sort of framework and boundaries for it, but it could work.

Flapjack
May 29th, 2016, 07:11 AM
I've had a thought. Perhaps a system could be set up where members who are possibly older or are experienced from things in their own life, such as having had depression for example, could mentor members who are currently experiencing the same thing. Another variation of this idea is that people could have accountability partners. So two people going through similar things could have regular communication to encourage each other and be accountable. So by setting this up in a somewhat formal way might help people not feel alone or isolated with their stuff in their life. People often post and get replies, but more often than not, that's where things stop. You'd obviously have to have some sort of framework and boundaries for it, but it could work.

Oh my gosh this sounds like an awesome idea!!! My only issue with it is I'm not sure how it would be implemented??

Croconaw
May 29th, 2016, 09:24 AM
I love this idea, but what if one member takes advantage of it? I know it wouldn't be common, but what if someone tells a person to kill themselves? Can it be implemented so the moderators can see the conversations?

Gumleaf
May 29th, 2016, 10:01 PM
I love this idea, but what if one member takes advantage of it? I know it wouldn't be common, but what if someone tells a person to kill themselves? Can it be implemented so the moderators can see the conversations?

That's a fair point and why there would need to be a framework and boundaries to make this work. I think in your example, that for a suicidal person we should be encouraging professional help rather than an accountability partner or mentor. I think this would be more suited for a person with a milder form of depression or who has anxiety etc. My idea would be that mentoring/accountability would occur onsite using the pm system which can be moderated by admins when appropriate. The possibility that convo's would continue offsite is something that can't be helped and is hard to control, so that is a risk. Members who would like an accountability partner/mentor would request one in an appropriate thread and the staff would choose a mentor/account partner for them based on similar character and competency checks that take place when staff elect new moderators.

StoppingTom
May 29th, 2016, 11:06 PM
If the nuts and bolts of the idea can be worked out and there are people willing, I'd be down for that. I wasn't around back when it was a thing, so maybe a staff member whose been around longer can tell me if this is close to the Counselor thing that existed however long ago?

Gumleaf
May 30th, 2016, 07:03 AM
If the nuts and bolts of the idea can be worked out and there are people willing, I'd be down for that. I wasn't around back when it was a thing, so maybe a staff member whose been around longer can tell me if this is close to the Counselor thing that existed however long ago?

Yes, many years ago there was a counsellor role. It was disbanded with due to lack of activity. The main differences between the old counsellor role and this suggestion are that the role of the counsellor was very general, meaning that they usually didn't have a great knowledge of most things unless they had experienced it themselves. So members would talk to these counsellor staff members, but they really could do no more than listen and be empathetic. In this suggestion a person seeking help would be paired up with someone who has at least had similar experiences themselves.

Another thing I thought of too, if this was implemented, that a mentor/accountability partner wouldn't be committed long term and that approximately every three months it would be re-evaluated meaning if both people want to keep going with it, then so be it. But if it's not working for someone or they have moved on, then that's okay too.

Just JT
May 30th, 2016, 07:37 AM
I pile the idea a lot and I'd be willing to help and volunteer in this if it gets set up and under way. Think there are many manners who join expecting to get a Serbian response or level of support only to find it's not there. This could help augment that

Body odah Man
May 30th, 2016, 08:11 AM
I've had a thought. Perhaps a system could be set up where members who are possibly older or are experienced from things in their own life, such as having had depression for example, could mentor members who are currently experiencing the same thing. Another variation of this idea is that people could have accountability partners. So two people going through similar things could have regular communication to encourage each other and be accountable. So by setting this up in a somewhat formal way might help people not feel alone or isolated with their stuff in their life. People often post and get replies, but more often than not, that's where things stop. You'd obviously have to have some sort of framework and boundaries for it, but it could work.

Sounds good.

Judean Zealot
May 30th, 2016, 12:14 PM
I'm just concerned about members using that trust to prey on kids. Otherwise it sounds like a good idea to me.

Just JT
May 30th, 2016, 12:40 PM
I'm just concerned about members using that trust to prey on kids. Otherwise it sounds like a good idea to me.

That's a huge concern tbh. The convos would need to be moderated somehow.
Not sure who mentioned that, but seems to me that's already in place, and might just need to be activated

But there may also need to be a policy that ALL communications between the member and the mentor stay inside the forum. Going outside won't allow for any moderation

Dalcourt
May 30th, 2016, 02:15 PM
Sounds way too complicated to to me make this work and prevent abuse.

Flapjack
June 1st, 2016, 11:07 AM
I love this idea, but what if one member takes advantage of it? I know it wouldn't be common, but what if someone tells a person to kill themselves? Can it be implemented so the moderators can see the conversations?

mods can already see PMs and maybe the mentors would be more senior members of the community. Not necessarily a mod but someone with a 2500+ post counted that is like and trusted by the community.

Leprous
June 1st, 2016, 02:42 PM
My concern here is that if the convo's are moderated people might not like to talk about personal stuff knowing that someone is reading it all.

That and the creep danger.

TheFlapjack you still need to find people who are willing to do that though. Not every 2500+ post member wants it.

Just JT
June 1st, 2016, 02:50 PM
My concern here is that if the convo's are moderated people might not like to talk about personal stuff knowing that someone is reading it all.

That and the creep danger.

TheFlapjack you still need to find people who are willing to do that though. Not every 2500+ post member wants it.

There's 2 sides to that. 1) they are already able to read, if they choose or feels it's needed. 2) if someone is serious about helping/wanting help, it really won't matter. In a nut shell, if you have nothing to hide, then there is no problem is there?

Flapjack
June 1st, 2016, 03:06 PM
TheFlapjack you still need to find people who are willing to do that though. Not every 2500+ post member wants it.

Yeahhh but I think we are a really awesome community and maybe 2500+ posts was a little highXD

Just someone trusted by the staff on the site.

As for reading the messges, leave it as it currently is where the mods can read any pms they feel the need to. Maybe a little systematically because of the creep risk.

there could also be a rule such as no contact outside of VT.

Leprous
June 1st, 2016, 03:06 PM
There's 2 sides to that. 1) they are already able to read, if they choose or feels it's needed. 2) if someone is serious about helping/wanting help, it really won't matter. In a nut shell, if you have nothing to hide, then there is no problem is there?

True but some people tend to be extremely anxious about these things.

Just JT
June 1st, 2016, 08:46 PM
True but some people tend to be extremely anxious about these things.

I know, I really do. But, there's a certian sense of security and anonymity here as well.

Leprous
June 2nd, 2016, 12:24 AM
I know, I really do. But, there's a certian sense of security and anonymity here as well.

I know there is, but will they know?