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billie
August 21st, 2004, 02:22 PM
Bit of a taboo here, but what does everybody think about zoophilia? By zoophilia, I mean humans being attracted to and quite possibly having sex with animals. Research shows that some people are just born attracted to animals, and can't do anything about it - not unlike being homosexual. But should zoophiles get the same treatment as homosexuals? In most jurisdictions, bestiality (sex with animals) is illegal. Should it be?

Zoosexuals claim that their relationship with their animal is more than just sex - they actually do love each other in a meaningful sense.

You can find out more about zoophilia (don't worry, there's nothing pornographic on this site - there's plenty of that on the internet) at http://www.zoophilia.net.

Me personally, I don't have a problem with it. Some people are just naturally inclined that way, so there's no use punishing them for it.

TheWizard
August 21st, 2004, 02:27 PM
strange poll.

billie
August 21st, 2004, 02:28 PM
What can I say, I'm a strange guy... :wink:

TheWizard
August 21st, 2004, 02:37 PM
lol :)

teenboy9
August 22nd, 2004, 12:58 AM
Well, what about pedophiles? I have gone out on the internet and looked at discussion web sites made by people who say they are just naturally attracted to children, and most are not like evil rapists, as seen in society. Those sites seem to be saying very much the same thing as people attracted to animals are saying. Now we obviously do not fully understand how someone is naturally attracted to animals, but if we decided to trust them, and just understand that we cant understand, then we cant be biased, and have to do this with all groups. This may or may not be a good thing, but it is something you have to do once set upon the path.

billie
August 22nd, 2004, 05:45 AM
Yeah, I would agree that paedophiles are largely okay people - they just are born with an attraction to children. Most will never act upon their impulses. Some will get child pornography (which is a crime in itself, although I don't know why - I mean, pictures of cannabis aren't illegal!). Only tiny minority will end up abusing children. If you asked a group of people the question, "Is being a paedophile illegal?", they would mostly respond "Yes, it is" (which is, of course, incorrect). I think this stigma towards paedophilia and zoophilia (which are classified as paraphilias) is totally unfair and not based on fact.

I suppose, in some ways, the users of this forum are victims of stigma - the stigma towards mental health problems. I remember someone asking Josh for a photograph of his new haircut - he refused because he didn't want to he hunted down. This stigma often stops people getting the help they want to get because of fear of ridicule. In fact, the word stigma comes from the Latin word meaning "a tattoo indicating slave or criminal status".

teenboy9
August 22nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
Interesting.

boognish
August 23rd, 2004, 01:16 AM
see, i undersatand what ppl talk about when they say "natural attractions" i am only 14 but if i was say 30 i would be considered a pedofilie. i have a strange attreaction to younger childeren, and since im bi its worse. also i have a strange attraction to zoophilia. at times i have strong impulses to "abuse" what i fantise about, but i can control this because of one thing. i do not want to hurt them. i can not, by my standards, touch a child or animal. not because its illegal, not because its wrong, not because im only 14, but because i dont want to hurt them. and child pornography should be legal.

billie
August 23rd, 2004, 03:32 AM
That's okay - it's understandable that young people will be attracted to other young people. It's like 40-year-old men being attracted to 20-year-olds - it's a normal thing. And sometimes women like older men. Perhaps you will grow out of it. I have an attraction to animals too - that's why I started this poll, to see what people think of it - but I've never acted on my impulses, probably because I haven't had the opportunity.

As for you not wanting to hurt animals - well, that is your decision. I don't believe it is animal abuse (although the law may not necessarily agree) - there is quite a convincing article here: http://www.zoophilia.net/consent.php. But I am grateful in a sense because just being with animals that I am attracted to makes me happy: I enjoy the company of a cat much more than most people do, which could be seen as a good thing. But you set your own guidelines and stick to them, so that is great.

It saddens me to see that society largely sees zoophiles as freaks who, have had sex with an animal, should be put into the same category as murderors and rapists. Because bestiality (in the UK at least) is a criminal activity, no different from any other, for which the maximum penalty is life imprisonment. That sends the message that the UK government would rather you dealt cannabis (and got a 14-year sentence) than had sex with your dog, in your house, with no-one else around, not harming anybody. It is a shame that throughout history, society as a whole has demonstrated unequivocally that it punishes things it does not understand and is afraid of, and it is evident that society is still just as bad today.

teenboy9
August 23rd, 2004, 09:19 AM
See, I have been interested in this kind of subject for a while, the groups which society as deemed evil and have been throuwn in a dark cornor for no futher discution. A lot of them say EXACTLY the same thing just change a few words "just being around the animal/child/plant/etc makes me happy." This is because they are really in the same boat. These are people borm a certain way, or developed feelings at some point for something not generally accepted, and they did not make themselves that way, thats the way they are. But instead dealing with them, society ignores them, makes no attempt to get them to join the crowd, they just wait till the people do something that society deems wrong so they can through them in jail. I admit going to some of these sites at times I get upset by it, but I understand I am not able to understand and relate with everything, but right or wrong these are groups that deserve to be recognized, supported and helped if there is a need. The problem is we have made society with no place for these groups to fit in, and we need to change society so that they can be part of the crowd.

pinkplayboy7
September 23rd, 2004, 06:08 PM
Peadophiles are crimanals they rape little kids.why the hell would any 1 think it is ok for some old crusty guy 2 go and rape a little kid ?that could mess up a kid 4 its whole life.I think all peadophiles should gofuck somebody their own age!!!!!!!!!

boognish
September 23rd, 2004, 06:12 PM
dude, im a pedofille and im only 14, i will never rape a child. that is wrong. ppl are criminals if they do that. i would never be able to do that to a child, or anyone. i love children, but i since i love them i can never hurt them

pinkplayboy7
September 23rd, 2004, 08:59 PM
dude, im a pedofille and im only 14, i will never rape a child. that is wrong. ppl are criminals if they do that. i would never be able to do that to a child, or anyone. i love children, but i since i love them i can never hurt themy dont u like girls your own age ?plus i still think if u having sex w/ a little kid is wrong.they wouldnt evan know what is goin on?they wouldnt know if what u were doing was right ,and as soon as they get older and relize it was wrong they could take u 2 court.

boognish
September 23rd, 2004, 09:31 PM
i wouldnt do that, im just more attracted to girls my age and younger, not older women, i like them i mean. but i if i had a choice i would choose younger girls. but i would never have sex with a girl that sort of age. i believe that is wrong.

TheWizard
September 24th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Is it ok for a 18 or 19 year old to have sex with someone about 14 or 15 if they both agree?

boognish
September 24th, 2004, 09:56 PM
i think it should be. but it has to be proven as non-rape.

jakep
October 5th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Thats sick as shit

Kiros
October 5th, 2004, 07:29 PM
back to the subject, i think...

It's probably OK for the most part for ppl to be into that stuff, AS LONG AS THEY' KEEP QUIET.
I think that the ppl have a right for that (or any) stuff as long as it doesnt affect others in their everyday lives... I mean if you're muttering something about animal sex, then ppl might look at u funny and they might be scarred :?

TheWizard
October 8th, 2004, 05:25 PM
This whole topic is very scary. I can't believe anyone can see it as normal behavior. Its some sick stuff to me but I will let it continue as long as it stays in this topic.

TheWizard
October 8th, 2004, 05:27 PM
This whole topic is very scary. I can't believe anyone can see it as normal behavior. Its some sick stuff to me but I will let it continue as long as it stays in this topic.

TheWizard
October 8th, 2004, 05:28 PM
On second thought I,m going to lock this topic.