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Lithium
January 9th, 2007, 11:43 PM
What are your thoughts on the draft?

I dont like it...but hopefully, if Congress ever enacted the draft (as far as the US goes) they'd actually need the men for a worthy cause.

If I were ever drafted...I would go. I believe that I might not always agree with what I have to do, but I also believe that you can't run from your responsibilites.

so anyway..what are your thoughts on the draft?

Whisper
January 10th, 2007, 12:07 AM
canada dosent have one we tried it but quebec got very angry. If my home ever needs me ill enlist of my own free will a draft not be required

0=
January 10th, 2007, 01:11 AM
If the draft is ever enacted I'm moving to Canada. I would make a horrible soldier anyway, I'd feel bad shooting a rabbit.

Rogue 4
January 10th, 2007, 06:15 AM
Hmmmm, if the draft ever came back, I wouldn't like it, but I'd go if I were called for. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the deepest circle of hell is reserved for the traitors against God, country, and family.

I don't consider Dante to be a source for sound religious advice, but he does make a few statements that are quite fun to qoute. They also make an impression on people. Next time you're betrayed, spice up your life with Dante!

Maverick
January 10th, 2007, 06:45 AM
I would go if called upon. I'm not a coward. Though I really don't think a draft will be started anytime soon.

mRojas2000
January 10th, 2007, 06:53 AM
If I get called I'll go... but I don't really like it, I mean, I go if I want, not if I'm forced to... the thing is that right now, I'm 14, and I have technacly no life... but, being between 18 - 30 I'm sure I'll have someone I love, and I'll most likely be married with children... see the difference?

redcar
January 10th, 2007, 08:13 AM
I would not go. Simple as that.

Rogue 4
January 10th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Eh, redcar, not to seem rude, but do they have a law that lets the Irish government invoke a draft? Couldn't help but notice your location. :D

As far as I know, Ireland has never had a draft, but my major is not world history, so I wouldn't really know either way. Just wondering if country will have anything to do with people's responses.

Jono
January 11th, 2007, 04:42 AM
I would help my country, but would rather not go into combat, probably help medically or intelligence.

DouggyO.o
January 11th, 2007, 08:29 AM
i would go, but not into combat, i would be better with the tecnolegy than i would shooting, im afraid of getting shot in the face at air soft, i would never last using real guns

redcar
January 11th, 2007, 08:55 AM
Eh, redcar, not to seem rude, but do they have a law that lets the Irish government invoke a draft? Couldn't help but notice your location. :D

As far as I know, Ireland has never had a draft, but my major is not world history, so I wouldn't really know either way. Just wondering if country will have anything to do with people's responses.
Ireland is a neutral country, along 7 others. Our constitution forbids us from going to war, or taking sides in conflict. So we cant have a draft. We do have a very small defense force but thats it.

The only time Irish people have ever been drafted was when we were part of the British Empire and we were drafted for WWI. But thats it.
We are very proud of our neutrality.

Melchi0r
January 11th, 2007, 02:07 PM
If the draft came back I wouldn't know what to do. This war is the worst ever. But it doesn't seem all that probable that Congress will allow it.

Bobby
January 11th, 2007, 02:42 PM
I don't think I could handle being around so much death.

rok.my.sox
January 11th, 2007, 03:22 PM
I would, but not in combat, maybe a technical side of it.

***Off-Topic*** Jono i couldn't help but notice youhavent been here since February 11th, 2005!!

Bankai15
January 11th, 2007, 04:22 PM
All of you are forgeting that if you dodge the draft you can be put if a federal prison for a long time.
Personly if we got involved in a huge war and the goverment was talking about a draft. I would join on my own terms because if I volenteer I can choose whatever I want to do. If you get drafted they put you where they need you.
I want to be a helicopter pilot for the nightstalkers.

Dante
January 11th, 2007, 08:40 PM
well there are ways to avodi the draft...

A) if you are in school
b) you have flat feet
c) if you are the only son in the household.

Bobby
January 11th, 2007, 08:42 PM
I have flat feet, and in school.

Dante
January 11th, 2007, 08:45 PM
i actually cover all 3 of those.

0=
January 11th, 2007, 10:07 PM
I believe there is a minimum weight requirement.

Maverick
January 12th, 2007, 06:26 AM
A) if you are in school
With that you only get a deferrment... which only allows you to finish the semester. Exception is if you're a senior then you can finish the entire year. But you still would have to go eventually.
c) if you are the only son in the household.
Contrary to popular belief, "only sons," "the last son to carry the family name," and "sole surviving sons" must register and they can be drafted. However, they may be entitled to a peacetime deferment if there is a military death in the immediate family.
Provisions regarding the survivors of veterans were written into Selective Service law after World War II. Details have varied over the years, but the basic premise remains the same; where a family member has been lost as a result of military service, the remaining family members should be protected insofar as possible.
It is important to keep in mind that the provisions are directly related to service-connected deaths. The mere fact that a man is the only child or only son does not qualify him for exemption - he must be the survivor of one who died as a result of military service.

MoveAlong
January 12th, 2007, 07:39 PM
I think the "don't ask don't tell" law applies somewhere in here for us queers. :P

I worry about a draft sometimes, and I wouldn't ever like to be in a war, or have a world war happen in my life...

Whisper
January 13th, 2007, 01:35 AM
i'm an only son..i have two sisters

Rogue 4
January 13th, 2007, 04:31 AM
Ireland is a neutral country, along 7 others. Our constitution forbids us from going to war, or taking sides in conflict. So we cant have a draft. We do have a very small defense force but thats it.

The only time Irish people have ever been drafted was when we were part of the British Empire and we were drafted for WWI. But thats it.
We are very proud of our neutrality.

Cool, thanks for the info :D

theonetheycallbob
January 13th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Draft, heck yes. whether someone wants to go to war or not i belive tht it is your responsibility to America. You were given this freedom now get up off your butt and go defend it. After all if you were to fight it, you were given that right by people who were put in a draft (WWII).

Bankai15
January 14th, 2007, 04:34 PM
If you dont want to protect you country then you have no reason for liveing in it.

Maverick
January 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM
If you dont want to protect you country then you have no reason for liveing in it.
I agree. The United States didn't get where it is today from people being pacifists and being too cowardly to go.

*Dissident*
January 14th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Tim O'brien, renown author of anti war books, and vietnam vetran ran into a similar problem. Having been drafted, he ran to the canadian border, because he was an activist and scared. he was to embarassed to leave to canada and went to war. after the fact, when asked if, knowing what he does now, would he have gone to canada, he answers with a firm and concise "Yes" without pausing to think for a single second.

Maverick
January 15th, 2007, 08:49 PM
Well good for him. Funny how he says he wouldn't leave for Canada before because he would be embarrassed and ashamed to. Then he thinks he gets the right and respect to say he would do different after serving, as if people will think of him as less of a coward because he served already. He's full of shit. I don't care "if you had known" because it's not an excuse for the choice you made.

*Dissident*
January 15th, 2007, 10:17 PM
whats so dishonorable about not wanting to kill or be killed for a country you dont have to much respect for? i mean, the United States has some pretty cool features, like a bill of rights and enormous wealth. but they also spend more money on defense than all the other nations of the world combined. they have started dozens of bloody wars in only 230 years. they were completly segregated for 190 years. they have denied people liberties such as marriage and medicine. anyway, Tim Obrien regrets his decision. if he could go back, he would have screamed and yelled at his old self to flee to canada.

0=
January 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM
What if the war isn't defending your freedom? *cough*Iraq*cough*

Maverick
January 16th, 2007, 06:51 AM
What if the war isn't defending your freedom? *cough*Iraq*cough*
Honestly I would not support it. I think many people wouldn't.